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He, he, nice design! From the side it actually looks a bit like the chekov from Berndt�s site.
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About putting this all on a seperate forum: I volunteer to host it on my site. The site itself is still in development (the current URL on my user bio re-directs to my old site), and I must download the freeware version of UBB first, however. My forum was already in planning, and this thread seems to be the decisive excuse to do it. I'm also going to need help with installing etc. Anyone an expert on UBB?
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You know, if we did want a separate Wolf 359 forum of some sort, I have this sci-fi UBB that doesn't get used enough...
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Well, That Talarian craft - that we can see... that Timo is discussing in the other thread - how can we explain that?? It doesn't make sense being there because "Suddenly Human" came AFTER BOBW2 - unless it was built already and they just used it.
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But the Talarian craft probably *isn't* seen in "BoBW2". The pictures of this wreck that we see on the various websites come from "Unification", and AFAIK, it's only speculation that the same pictures were filmed for "BoBW2" already.
I'd think that as few "alien" models as possible would have been used in filming the Wolf 359 scenes, since the script called for a *Starfleet* armada to be massacred. The Talarian design doesn't strike me as something the VFX people would accept as Starfleet-looking. Then again, nor do the Mars Defence Perimeter craft... But those at least had identifiable nacelles.
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The359's theory about Admiral Hanson's flagship being the Excelsior class Melbourne is probably the most logical argument for the Melbourne controversy. Very consistent to what we saw in TV.
"2) Some more proof that Admiral Hanson's ship was the Excelsior-class Melbourne. In BoBW, Riker gets word that the fleet has engaged the Borg at Wolf 359. Riker arrives at the bridge, and Hanson's ship looses contact within seconds. Now, in "Emissary", we see the fleet engage the Borg (Locutus on the Saratoga's viewscreen). Now, immediatly after they engage the Borg, the Excelsior class Melbourne's saucer is obliterated. This explains the lost contact with Hanson."
One thing that bugs me is why a lot of people base the Nebula theory on the USS Melbourne model in Riker's desk in Future Imperfect. Note that the episode is set AFTER the battle of Wolf 359 and it was in an imaginery future. We could even assume that a new Nebula class Melbourne was built after the battle. Even though the writers initially wanted the Melbourne to be the Nebula, maybe they realized that they made a mistake because Hanson was in an Excelsior class ship as seen in BOBW part 1 so they changed it when they filmed The Emmisary. The old style bridge seen while he was communicating with the Enterprise(with the red alert screen similar to the constitution class Enterprise seen in the movies) seem to indicate that he was in an older 23rd century style ship. The Melbourne was offered to Riker because it has no captain. In the meantime, Admiral Hanson uses it as his ship while it is captainless and since he had to engage in battle, it is his flagship(the flagship doesn't have to be the biggest or most powerful ship in the fleet since in DS9, the little Defiant was practically the command ship in Sacrifice of the Angels and Tears of the Prophets). I watched and analyzed the Shelby in the bridge scene again and again and when she said Melbourne, the camera wasn't really showing her point at any specific ship in the wreckage. Riker's facial expression was in grief when she said that partly because it was suppose to be his ship but also probably because of his reaction to the destruction of the ship where Admiral Hanson has died(this after being promoted by him and showing confidence to Picard's resistance).
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