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Those aren't spoilers... I should post what happens in the movie... but I won't.
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Saw it. Loved it! John Logan wrote a really good script and best of all: All the enterprise crew are portrayed as SMART! I rank it as the best of the trek films, or at least on equal footing with First Contact.
Biiig questions for those that saw it: was that Ro Laren sitting with Guinan at the reception? There was no real cast listing at the end save for the major players and guinan/wesley.....not even a listing of the actor that played the Preator! I satyed for the whole credits to see that damn list!
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Which is, naturally, the biggest question any of us have about the film. Gonna be taking in the early show tonight - I hope it's not overly packed. Obviously, this thread will soon be full of first impressions.. Mine will join 'em shortly. Anyone deliverately NOT watching the movie tonight?
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I'm curious about some things. Imdb says Pulaski and Lwaxana are in the film; am I correct in assuming they have very small roles? And just what is the weird-looking guy who has his hands on Shinzon's head?
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quote:Originally posted by deadcujo: I'm curious about some things. Imdb says Pulaski and Lwaxana are in the film; am I correct in assuming they have very small roles? And just what is the weird-looking guy who has his hands on Shinzon's head?
Not that I saw... if this were true then I'm sure they would have made a big deal about it, like with Guinan, Wesley, and Janeway. The IMDb probably fell prey to some fanboys. I'm not even sure Majel Barrett did the computer voice... there was only one voiceover, and it sounded garbled, sort of like it was recycled or something.
But overall, I very much enjoyed the movie. Glad I avoided most of the spoilers... there were quite a few suprises. And thankfully, this time around there were no "outside" characters like Anij or Lily interfering with the natural interplay between the TNG cast. Picard and Beverly got a scene together, however brief, and so did Geordi and Data. I think it ended too abruptly though... you want to turn the page and find more, but the whole thing was over. Nemesis could have definitely benefitted from an extra fifteen minutes or more.
And Deck 29 on the Enterprise-E? Will they make up their minds already?
I'll have my full review later...
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I generally concur - I enjoyed the movie... it had its absolute shit moments, but that's come to be expected.
I am actually quite impressed, as I was expecting a disaster.
I do want to try and get a better glimpse of those attending the wedding, though... I'm sure we know quite a few more people there.
As for Janeway's pips... she was on a slightly fuzzy viewscreen (which is actually a plus - we actually see a video image rather than perfect video being overlayed... someone was paying attention!), and I don't recall being able to make out the pips...
If Steph and I go see it again....
That was definately Majel Barrett as the computer - no one else can pull off that voice, plus it sounded a bit aged...
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I caught the 12:50pm show today. I throught the movie was very well done, better than I had thought it to be. I was afraid that with a new writer and director that the film wouldn't have a "Trek" feel to it, fortunately, I was wrong. It was very close to FC in feeling, and the cameos were well placed, although Janeway's drew a few boos in the theater I was in.
The E-E can sure take a pounding and keep going. The E-D wan't a tenth of the ship the E-E is. I burst out laughing at a rather odd part in the movie, when Shinzon says "Fire at the flanking warbird", I heard "Fire at the f*cking warbird"! Everyone around me wondered what was so funny...
I fail to see how the E caused so much damage to the Scimitar, it seemed to be mostly cosmetic.
I also thought the "I'll be in the gym" and "Mrs. Troi" lines were funny and not as cheesy as they sounded on paper. Also, B4's "Man with the shiney head" and "tall man with a fuzzy face" lines were good. The audience laughed when B4 asked if he'd done something wrong when Data put him in the armrest in the ARGO.
Lastly, leaving the theater, I heard people commenting "How dare they kill my favorite character!" and the like. I imagine the exact same thing was said 20 years ago, too. Of course, we know what will happen, B4 will eventually process Data's memories and everything will be fine again.
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quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: That was definately Majel Barrett as the computer - no one else can pull off that voice, plus it sounded a bit aged...
That's probably it... her VO wasn't as energetic as in the past.
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One thing that I really loved from the movie: When we first see the E-E, and when we see the E-E in drydock at the end, the music from the first viewing of the E-nil in TMP was used. And I loved the overall music of the movie. That synth thing whenever we see Shinzon - very cool.
And I wonder if John Logan is a fan of Star Trek: Renaissance? The Romulan senator that was in league with Shinzon was named Talora.
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quote:Originally posted by Topher: And I loved the overall music of the movie.
Agreed... I never sicken of hearing the TNG theme, especially when applied to the Enterprise or Picard. It's very suiting.
Some other random plot observations:
I'm glad that all references to Beverly leaving were removed... Riker and Troi I can accept moving on since Riker's goal has always been to command his own ship, but Beverly going back to Starfleet Medical seems wrong.
Also nice that Wil Wheaton was at least shown in frame, even if his lines were cut. Like him or hate him, Wesley is part of the TNG family, and if this is the last film to feature the entire cast he has a right to be there. Like the ending, though, the wedding scene was way too short. They should have at least worked in Worf's line in the novelization about not being "suited for the life of a diplomat."
So is Janeway now a Starfleet secretary with admiral's pips? Seemed like it to me... but maybe I'm just making things up to keep my sanity. Damned Boston Public keeping Jeri Ryan away...
I liked the whole supporting cast too. Dina Meyer was great in her few scenes, and it's a bit frightening how Tom Hardy looks like Patrick Stewart... granted, they used some latex, but it's still uncanny.
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So who's the freaky guy who hangs out with Shinzon?
*won't see the movie for a while unless one of you takes me to see it and pays*
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