I find this odd. Why is Australia's premiere January 16th, yet New Zealand doesn't get it until April 10th? Why can't they ship the sucker across to the islands?
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The first disc-shaped explosion I remember is when Nostromo blew up in Alien. The explosions in the first 3 Star Wars movies were all physical explosions filled in parking lots and effects stages.
PS: Nemesis is not coming to Japan until fucking April 12!
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Really? Damn that's a long time to wait for a movie. In 2004 I'm moving to Japan for 2 or 3 years.
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I'm watching Minority Report right now.... third time this weekend
It's a great movie....
Anyway, back to Trek
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I think it was the darkness of space that really made the Scimitar freaky. Also the space battle wasn't near any stars (at least from what i could gather) I got a fairly good look at the Warbirds, and i actually mistook them for BOP's at first. I think the space battle shots would have been way cooler if the Scimitar wasn't firing through it's cloak. All you saw were some ripples when something hit. Meh, well I'm going to se Two Towers next week, so i'll probably forget all about Nemesis by then.
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As I said earlier... why are there WHEELS on the damn dune buggy? Doesn't the future use antigravs to move street vehicles on Earth?
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Frankly, wheels make more sense. They're a proven technology. Surely it must take more power to counter gravity than it does to push a dune buggy around. So why not use wheels when the terrain and situation allows?
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I'm sure by the late 24th Century, antigrav technology would be as good as wheels.
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Its good to be surrounded by people who enjoyed the movie as much as I did. What Sol said about the "just becauses" I totally agree with, but I enjoyed the movie nontheless.
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Saw it tonight. Thought it was pretty good. Ok, there are like fifty-seven different Nemesis threads up in here, and I've poked around to see if anyone has brought this up and I didn't see it anywhere. So if someone has and they are really sick of it, if they could just politely point me to the appropriate thread, I'd sure appreciate it.
Lore. My question is about Lore. You know, Data's Evil twin from before B4. Why didn't anyone say anything at all about Lore? So like there's Lore and there's B4 and Data? Isn't that kind of jumping the shark on the whole positronic android prototype thing? I kept thinking about that through the whole movie and it really distracted me.
Also the genetic 'science' was pretty, erm, awful. But I think there was a good movie in there somewhere. Some of the action was very awsome and the VFX sure were pretty. The Riker on Troi action I could have done without, B4 acting like a moron I could have done without, Picard acting like Snay at the deerfarm/Bo Duke age-50 I could have done without, but overall I think I liked it. The main story was interesting and engaging if a bit implausible, the toys were very cool, and I liked the performances. Anyway, could really do with some feedback on the whole Lore thing...
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I enjoyed the film minus a few nitpicks here and there. Though now I can see what some people are talking about when it has no much of a Trek soul.
PS: Hobbes on Feb. 21st, I will be going to Japan for my next duty station.
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As for the B-4 deal, when I first saw clips I thought it was Lore which would tie in with the title Nemesis. However, the only thing that works for B-4 is the TNG episode "Inheritance" in which Data's 'mom', Julianna Soong, tells him that there were prototype androids constructed before Data and Lore. Even though it's a stretch, it is still possible B-4 was one of the androids mentioned by Julianna Soong.
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Yeah. I thought that it was pretty clear that Data & Lore were identical production versions of the Soong android concept, and that B4 was the previous prototypical iteration, superficially similar but internally different.
Of course, I don't see why they couldn't just have used Lore, or---even better---why the plot needed to have a Data lookalike at all. Surely there could have been another way for Shinzon to bait Picard and Data without playing that old card. Of course, it did give them an excuse to A) have a "kewl" car chase on a planet, and B) leave the door semi-open for Data's "return" someday.
What seemed totally pointless to me was the dune buggy chase. There was zero reason for the aliens to show up after they find B-4 other than to have a cool chase scene. The aliens obviously weren't sent by Shinzon as he *wanted* them to take B-4 back to the ship and he needed Picard alive.
I will see it again and try to make sense of the disappointment...
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