Topic: Sternbach: Gettin' Jiggy Widdit (The Intrepid-class, that is).
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Hey, this months Star Trek Magazine gave a facelift to its starship briefing, allowing Rick Sternbach to write a TNG TM style paragraph about the construction of Voyager (kind of like if there was a VGR TM.. hm...)..
Anywho, he says a lot of interesting things in the article.
Intrepid-class project begins: July 2361, originally called 'Planform SV-65'
Voyager speed limitations: Standard Cruising Speed: Warp 7.75 for 16 days Maximum Cruising Speed: Warp 9.25 for 2.25 days Emergency Dash Speed: Warp 9.975 for 12.65 hours Maximum achieved: Warp 9.986 during shakedown cruise
Second warp core contained in secondary hull for construction in one weeks time
Warp reactant mixture continuum safe: a 'fortunate by-product' of new design..
Official crew capacity: 168
Design finalized: 2367, after two intermediate designs (perhaps called 'Intrepid pathfinders' BTW, the proto-Intrepid model resembles neither of the two alternate designs shown)
Voyager first ship finished, warp core installation in 2370, launched 2371.
The Intrepid was finished three months earlier the SD 47834.6, in 2370 (possibly in time to be "Force of Nature"'s Intrepid!).
Aeroshuttle: Not finished by launch (to quote "Final outfitting of mission specific hardware was delayed.. [pending] flight testing with the U.S.S. Intrepid").
Escape Pods: 16 month lifeboat, range of .25 LY with impulse jet, fit six crew aboard.
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*scanner broken!* need USB help.. damn this blasted piece of grozit!
Well the first one has an almost circular saucer, attached to a fatter Intrepid stardrive, with no hinges. The second one has an agular five sides saucer, like the proto-Voy except with a blunt front and a fatter stardrive with hinges.
Im really mad at my scanner i accidentally plugged it back in before installing the software and it wont recognize it now. :-(
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I was talking to Tim about this the other day, speculating on whether or not this sort of thing should occupy the same sort of "semi-canon" state as the "real" technical manuals.
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I'm thinking this IS the VGR tech manual.. not having gotten any interest from Pocket, Sternie's probably taking what he had already written and cashing it in by getting it published.
So I think that, since it was written by him as a companion for the TNG TM, we should consider on the same level of canon we approach that. (which differes from one of us to the other).
BTW, the article carries the same warning that was in the TNG tech manual:
"[This] ...data may be altered by Starfleet Intelligence in order to confound and confuse agents of threat forces within and without the United Federation of Planets."
Basically: If they cocked up on something, its because these are propoganda designed to scare the Cardassians, and thats why it was a planned inaccuracy. (The same paragraph was used to dismiss Franz Joseph's discontiuities in the opening to the TNG TM).
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That's the kinda funny thing of it all. The semicanon concept as I see has to do with "if it'd come up we can be pretty sure it'd be said as follows." But when you get into people leaving shows and coming into shows and shows ending it gets a little weird.
For instance, Jeri Taylor's two books apparently nail down some stuff regarding Janeway's early career and the like, and we can be fairly certain that if the opportunity had come up for her to do throwaway lines based on what she established in the book she would have. Except in the year or so she was still executive producer following their publication, she never did (although the point could be made that the way she wrote the character to react to certain situations was based on how she wrote the character in her books.) But could we have that same kind of expectation of Mosaic/Pathways stuff showing up during Voyager's Seventh Season, when she was essentially out of the throwaway-line-inserting business? It's kinda convoluted. "Legends of the Ferengi" by Behr and Wolfe falls into this category, too, although there is plenty of stuff in there that ended up being canonized onscreen (Marauder Mo action figures, Slug-o Cola) in the years following its publication. And I have a hunch that the Jacquemettons read it before doing "Acquisition" on ENT, which means that figuratively speaking its possible for thoughts from beyond the grave to influence current Trek.
Basically, my take is this. If the information on the Intrepid portrayed above was Rick's impression of it for a considerable period of time and that there's a good chance that on any given day in say the fourth season of Voyager that if the writers had come to him asking him for advice it would resemble the above (whew, a lot of thats) then it deserves to be as semicanonical as the tech manuals. That said, by default a book on the shelf in the office is more likely to be consulted than a back-issue of a magazine by any future Trek writer and so realistically speaking the odds of any future 24th century show corroborating the stuff in there is pretty slim.
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Hmmm looks like I gotta go buy me a magazine!
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Official crew of 168. . . it'd be interesting to look at the Roll Call site again with that number as Voyager's official crew capapcity.
And when I read the idea that the escape pods can sustain life for that length of time, it makes me think of all the times (well, one or two of them) when they'd gleefully pile into the pods despite being in the middle of nowhere. . .
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If I *had* the magazine, I'd scan it myself with my fully-functional scanner. But nooooo, I'm out here in the Canadian sticks where magazines don't arrive until weeks after the street date.
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We don't even GET the Star Trek Mag in Australia - only that STUPID Fact Files - which I stopped after issue 3 or something. It was SOOOOOOOOOO crap...
e.g. arrow - with text "this is the bridge, this is where the Captain can be found most of the time" - or something along those lines - completely rediculous.
I heard they were still going and up to like no. 250 or something... that's like $2000+
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The article, also, mentions the U.S.S. Hauck. You can add another ship to your shiplists. The article says that the Intrepid, Voyager, and Bellerophon are the first three vessels to be constructed. Maybe it is the Bellerophon in the construction yard in Relativity.
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No I am fairly certain that the name on the ship in Relativity was Voyager. What's the problem with that ship not being Voyager? So what if it was officially launched elsewhere [Defiant, E-B].
As for the Hauck, hopefully it's an entirely new class of ship
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