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Just looking at the pics now - oh WHY don't we get the ST:MAG in Australia!?!
Just reguarding the TNG-TM ships... apart - probably from the 'nacelles up front' ship - does anyone else see inklings of the Voyager and the Sovereign in those other ships!?! I think that is nice. I.e. the pointy Bussards are one area I can remember off hand.
The 'squashed' saucer - could be applied to the Intrepid and Sovereign - except they realised turning it 90 degrees worked better!
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Thanks Mim! Anyone wanna turn those pics into a PDF for easier downloading and viewing?
As for the canon scale, I'm afraid it'd be next to useless. If years of debates here have proven one thing, it's that fans will believe in what's most convenient TO THEM, rather than some arbitrary scale that some other biased fan would impose on them. While there are trends which will remain regardless of this (for example, that Sternbach's stuff will tend to be more credible than Alex Jaeger's or the average fan's when it comes to Voyager), the body of tech knowledge will forever remain a big vat of amorphous goo that individual fans will reshape to what they think it will be.
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quote:Anyone wanna turn those pics into a PDF for easier downloading and viewing?
Actually, I can arrange for a hardcopy version to be delivered to your hands.. just buy the magazine. I realize we skirt copyright laws just a little here, but reproducing an entire magazine that is still on the stands and disseminating it freely is getting a little extreme. I'm sorry if i started it by printing my breakdown (i thought the tech was the most important thing), but it really seems to me like you guys are taking this to extremes....
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While cleaning up my room, I found something very interesting. Several years ago (back in the dark ages when we didn't have internet, DSL for episode downloads and Drexy's e-mail address ) there was a Making Of-magazine published in germany. Wise as I am, I bought it. Besides a episode guide, there were many infos given about the ship itself. I assume they were from the bible, for example the technical data. I checked it and they say Voyager was the second ship to be launched, of a total of four ships. They also had some cool design sketches, I scanned two of them for you guys. Just thought it might be worth a post on this topic; enjoy.
(They said there are more in the Art of Star Trek, which is true, but those are not included. These were the only clear ship images in the magazine, but if you want more other stuff, just shout and I'll be here.)
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I remember an article in a TV magazine, which showed an early design. It had a triangular saucer and big "fins".
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The fins were supposed to be some new-fangled shield system - I believe Sternbach once told us that they were active absorbers of incoming beam fire, which would *bend* towards and be absorbed by the fins rather than hit the regular shields. One ST:M had all those sketches and more.
And Mike, you're right. If the magazine ever shows up here, I'll probably purchase it anyway...
Yeah I've seen those sketches but the one from the TV magazine was a little bit different. The nacelles were movably.
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"Dilithium-lined swirl chamber"....I like the sound of that. It answers the one question I had: where the fuck was the DCAF??
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I wonder if the gravity plating on the Intrepids resemble in any way the gravity plating mentioned in Enterprise.
Oh god, I hope not.
And personally, having thousands of mini-gravity generators seems a bit excessive. Sure the bigger ones can be taken out more easily, but they're also a lot easier to maintain and doesn't require such a complex network of generators and plasma conduits.
Come on, someone had to complain about something.
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If you read the article, you'd realize that its a fairly basic history of the Intrepid class. For instance they never explained in detail why they changed the design of the two sketches to the one that looks like it now. Also I wonder if we can incoporate the real study model into the history as well.
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Not as a physical contruct, I'd say... The article says they had three submitted revisions, all of shich were pictured. The study model could be one of the seven unfinished concept designs before the first dry run.
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