Topic: Sternbach: Gettin' Jiggy Widdit (The Intrepid-class, that is).
OnToMars
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Planform is an aerospace term meaning the area of the wing. I'm not sure of any other definitions, though I would bet it was meant to relate to that in some way.
If we believe that a ship's warp field is based around the shape of the hull itself (as we all should), then the planform could refer to the area of the hull itself or at least that portion off which the field is projected.
In such a case, the SV could refer to the type of planform, or essentially, the type of hull. The Intrepid-class could be the 65th design of that particular type of ship.
Now type is up to anyone's guess. Could be scout, fast warp courier, capital ship, long range explorer, etc.
I'll try to dig out my AE 101 airplane project from last semester to see if I can get recollect some more details.
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There are less than 65 canon/official classes that predate the Intrepid (I count about 50). A lot of these have unusually long lifespans, likely longer than what we'd thought so far (Enterprise establishes that one type of Klingon battlecruiser can last 225 years, so why not a Starfleet ship?).
It is very likely that the Oberths and Mirandas served as non-"starship class" ships even in the late 22nd century (the Grissom has the registry NCC-638), and that the smooth TOS design is not necessarily older, but more of a design variant (as evidenced by the similarity of NX-01 to the Excelsior/refit Constitution).
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Planform-65, to me means the 65th planned starship form of 2361. Any modification based on this would come 65A-Z. Of course this gets confusing when 2362's 65 comes around, oh well...
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Maybe the SV-65 in 'Planform SV-65' means Study Vehicle 65, where it is the 65th study vehicle for the Intrepid Class.
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Maybe its just a random letter number combination Sternbach pulled off the top of his head
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SV-65 could mean alot though I will tend to agree it is Study/Ship Vehicle/Vessel Number 65. I find the number 65 right since we around 40 to 50 classes that are before the Intrepid. The additional ships could be failed designs, smaller less important ships, prototypes, and so on. To me, if they ever continue this way, it'll be a nice way of figuring out the ages of each class (if they get it right, seeing if they keep doing it, they might put the number for the Daedalus class SV 567)
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Just to throw in some more wood into the fire...
From my shiplist, I've counted 81 starship classes total, 59 of which were seen on-screen, 15 being conjectural, and 7 possible but unseen designs. And before anyone asks, the 7 PBU designs are:
Apollo (from Emissary unused footage) Federation (From ST:TMP) Zandura (Wreckage in ST:FC?) Excelsior study model most resembling the NCC-2000 (TPTB say it's in BoBW, but I haven't found it yet) The last three DS9 TM kitbashes.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Just to throw in some more wood into the fire...
From my shiplist, I've counted 81 starship classes total, 59 of which were seen on-screen, 15 being conjectural, and 7 possible but unseen designs. And before anyone asks, the 7 PBU designs are:
Apollo (from Emissary unused footage) Federation (From ST:TMP) Zandura (Wreckage in ST:FC?) Excelsior study model most resembling the NCC-2000 (TPTB say it's in BoBW, but I haven't found it yet) The last three DS9 TM kitbashes.
Well that's the possible but unseen designs covered, what about the 59 of which were seen on-screen and 15 conjectural. I'd be interested to know what they all are and look like.
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Also, some classes such as the Daedalus class and possibily the Connie class might not follow the SV-xx format.
Also I strongly believe that the ships showed the Encyclopedia are either the kitbashes shown or small craft like the Danube or Oberths. They have to be really small in order for us not to see them, or even not be in any type of battle. Like transports, or cargo carriers.
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Or perhaps the fleet is just so damn big that we only a sliver of it. It is just coincedence that 80% of this sliver is made up of Excelsiors.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Just to throw in some more wood into the fire...
From my shiplist, I've counted 81 starship classes total, 59 of which were seen on-screen, 15 being conjectural, and 7 possible but unseen designs. And before anyone asks, the 7 PBU designs are:
Apollo (from Emissary unused footage) Federation (From ST:TMP) Zandura (Wreckage in ST:FC?) Excelsior study model most resembling the NCC-2000 (TPTB say it's in BoBW, but I haven't found it yet) The last three DS9 TM kitbashes.
What about the Hermes/Saladin class (I can't remember which) that was mentioned in TMP?
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[from the May 2002 issue of Star Trek: The Magazine, pp. 49-53]
BTW, the article says Voyager was the THIRD in the series built. WTF? I thought it had always been the second. (And this would make sense, considering the Bellerophon's reg is NCC-74705... ) Ah well...
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Thanks for the scans, man!
Nice ships those design concepts. OK, the first concept is nice, the second concept is ugly. Maybe I'll doa 'what if'-series based on the design concepts published here, in the TNG and DS9TMs. We never got sideviews of those ships. And remind me to finish the Norway after sunday. Until then, I have so much things to do I really don't know where to start.
Besides, what's your favourite from the TNGTM? While I think the ship with the nacelles in the front and some modules attached to the back would make an excellent TNG-freighter, My favourite is the ship with the long phylons (the ship with the squashed saucer just looks ugly, and the ship with the triangular saucer or whatever it is looks like the second concept from Sternbachs article, don't you think?)
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