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His motives are very clear...he wants to make the risks of war clear to those who have the power to declare it.
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"I'm going to introduce legislation to have universal military service to let everyone have an opportunity to defend the free world against the threats coming to us."
They have an opportunity. It's called "enlisting of your own free will". And if we're going to have mandatory service, it should be for the members of the government who vote in favor of the war. If they want it, let them fight it. If this bill passes, it will have been passed by the same people who voted for war. In other words, it won't have changed their mind about anything.
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Tim: That might be his point...I don't think he intends for it to pass, but he's hoping that when it comes up, people will be watching Congress's reaction very closely. That's my guess, at least.
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It is a bad idea, moral would fall off, Tim McVeigh's have a better chance of spring up...
A wartime draft, well we have that, so it's no biggie...
Besides, then the politicians now that they have a full military, what makes him think that they, the polis, would twist this around and make war more often???
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#2 Do you really want people in the military that dont want to be there serving with people who have volunteered for duty?
Granted this situation already exists but on a much larger scale it could really become a moral and force protection issue.
#4 If this does pass, how long would they have to be commited for? 2 years? a year? 4 years?
I'm thinking the period of time people must serve would become an issue, how do you build unit cohesion with people who after 9 months are basiclly done with their commitment.
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You hire more hard-ass drill sergeants.
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Thats the thing Cartman, during the Clinton years the training in the military with the exception of the USMC was pussified to no belief.
Drill Sergeants are not allowed to be hard asses anymore. As a Drill Sergeant you are not allowed to call someone a "Meathead" or a "Dogface".
Now I know a curse words doesnt make you a soldier. But if a troop can't take a grown man cursing at him how are they going to react during a fire fight? or if they are captured?
"An ounce of sweat in training saves a gallon of blood in battle"
Read the following article by Col. Hackworth about the training (or lack there of) at Fort Jackson, SC
The facts in this article have been echoed by friends of mine that have returned from "Relaxing Jackson" after Basic. Now this article was writtin about training with volunteers, now imagine this with people who were dragged into training?
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I saw this guy interviewed on TV last night.
If this guy were vodka, he'd be Absolut Idiot.
Basically, he's against the war and he'll do or say anything to push his agenda. He was actually saying that we needed to give the underpriveleged a chance to fight and die with the volunteers.
He also implied that somehow, the volunteers were too stupid to understand that they signed on for the possibility of warfare when they volunteered (An astoundingly insulting position for an elected official to take).
Or at least, that was what he was saying about half of the time. The other half he was babbling about "shared risk," as though he thought that the draft would put the kids of congressmen in danger (Like it did in Vietnam?) and make them re-think their position. The whole thing seemed to me to be some bizarre attempted vote extortion.
If THIS is what the Democrats are fielding as leadership, they're in even worse shape than I thought they were.
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For some strange reason, I agree with you, First.
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Of course, as bad as the idea might be, the argument that mandatory military service is unworkable and harmful in all cases is blatently untrue.
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