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So why are there no Psyche screening for private firearms?
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Trying to put myself in mind of someone who wants to make sweet love to the second ammendment (or whichever one it is):
Possibly because it's there in case the government turns bad and the local populace have a means of taking on the government and it's tanks and stuff. If you had psyche tests, the government could stop people that they don't like from having guns, and they could then strip away your personal freedoms.
Thank god the terrorist attack came along and they could use that as an excuse instead.
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Guns are honorless killing devices anyway. Killing by remote control. Gutless.
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It'd be worthless in YOUR hands.
Unless you take pleasure in dismembering yourself.
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In response to JA:
When you see someone on the battlefield, then you kill him with a gun from 200m away, that's not war, that's just wrong. During the middle ages people fought hand to hand mostly. Bows/Crossbows weren't very effective at close ranges against individual targets. During Hand to hand, the stronger warrior usually won. Rather Darwinian actually. It may seem barbaric now. But is it really worse than getting a bullet through your chest and waiting in severe agony to bleed out, which could take a few minutes?
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As opposed to getting a sword through your gut and waiting to bleed out?
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Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers were on C-SPAN tonight, most likely a playback, saying that they thought the idea was no good, that the volunteer military is a more professional force, etc...
The reports tried getting him to talk about the military now as opposed to the late 60's...
Do those idiots know that there was a war and a draft taking place then??? Apples and oranges make for good side by side comparisions...
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Ok!!!! Let's bring back Medieval warfare!!! it's sooooooo much more manly!!!
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If something like this were to come into force over in the UK I'd tell Tony Blair to shove it up his ass and shed his blood for peace rather than everyone else's. I am not a killer or a soldier and I would rather go to prison and be called a coward than fight and get shot at and gassed by the enemy.
War is a total waste of time, it doesn't benefit anyone. Fight over a piece of land, religion . . . anything. Why? We're all human. We all have a right to live. Just because a few tossers think that they should rule the world, the world is spoilt for everyone else. What about the families? "Oh, so sorry. Your dad/mother/brother/sister/son/daughter/other family member was killed because we wanted to let off some steam/take that country."
Piss off back to where you came from you morons and leave us all in peace!
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War sucks. It's also sometimes our best option.
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quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: In response to JA:
When you see someone on the battlefield, then you kill him with a gun from 200m away, that's not war, that's just wrong. During the middle ages people fought hand to hand mostly. Bows/Crossbows weren't very effective at close ranges against individual targets. During Hand to hand, the stronger warrior usually won. Rather Darwinian actually. It may seem barbaric now. But is it really worse than getting a bullet through your chest and waiting in severe agony to bleed out, which could take a few minutes?
It's wrong....so is all war. I really was more refering to firearms as a rule and their legality as a "citizen's right to bear arms". Loada crap. 99% of people with weapons permits are the last possible people you'd want to have them! I really just dislike the "equalizer" mentality that lets a 15 year old gang banger off anybody regardless of skill or consequence. It's no diffrent than North Korea having a nuke: only the number of targets is higher. We'll do anything to prevent a big psycho like Sadamm from having that kind of power, but here in America we have the worlds largest handgun mortality rate with no war in sight. Why are'nt we tackling the problem of indiscriminate killing here at home at all? Political contrubutions and the NRA is why. Let's see this fuck-o from NY call for a mandatory firearms ban: never happen.
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quote:Why are'nt we tackling the problem of indiscriminate killing here at home at all? Political contrubutions and the NRA is why. Let's see this fuck-o from NY call for a mandatory firearms ban: never happen.
Also because the availability of weapons seems to have bugger-all to do with the homicide rate, otherwise Norway and Canada would have pretty much similar rates to ours.
It is, sad to say, probably our culture at large, not our "gun culture," which causes this problem.
quote: 99% of people with weapons permits are the last possible people you'd want to have them!
99.99% of statistics "quoted" in this manner are unadulterated crap. I'm betting this one is, too.
It's amazing, the sheer number of lunkheads who actually seem to believe that societal pacifism is viable while predators exist. Dude, tell it to the antelope. He lives by running away, and when he can't run, he dies.
You cannot HAVE freedom if you are not willing to defend it. When you expect others to defend you, you are giving them power over you. Sometimes, power extending to life-and-death decisions.
You might have missed it but, those model ships you build? They have phaser strips and photon torpedo launchers. Even in Utopia.
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I don't want to bring back Medieval Warfare. I'm just saying I'd rather have a chance to fight it out with some guy then get shot at by a sniper from over a kilometer away. Swords are also way cooler
quote: War sucks. It's also sometimes our best option.
And sometimes it's our only option. Unfortunately.
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