Topic: NY Rep. Calls for Mandatory Military Service
Da_bang80
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Exactly. My father never taught me to stay away from guns. I knew what they were and I stayed away from them.
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Rob: Yeah, but some people are too stupid to bother to teach their kids that, or even realize it themselves. But, by your logic, they should still get to have guns, because, if they don't, someone might shoot them someday, and they couldn't defend themselves.
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Well ya know, that's one of the reasons WHY I keep saying that training in safety and proper use SHOULD be mandatory for gun owners.
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Which doesn't help if they learn it just so they can get the gun, and then promptly continue to refrain from giving a shit.
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quote:Originally posted by First of Two: Well ya know, that's one of the reasons WHY I keep saying that training in safety and proper use SHOULD be mandatory for gun owners.
And we all know how well that's worked with Driver's Ed. Why, thanks to the requirements for proper lessons and qualifications in handling cars, the roads are perfectly safe places to be.
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Assuming they made it past the lobbies of Uncle Sam's widespread tumor, the NRA.
You know, you really should read the posts AFTER the ones you agree with, before spouting poop like that.
Trigger guards = demonstrated failure. Dangerous to owner, do not protect children.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: Which doesn't help if they learn it just so they can get the gun, and then promptly continue to refrain from giving a shit.
I wish that sentence had an understandable structure.
Plus, if this were true, why do we even bother having to pass a safety test to drive a car?
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quote:Originally posted by First of Two: Well ya know, that's one of the reasons WHY I keep saying that training in safety and proper use SHOULD be mandatory for gun owners.
And we all know how well that's worked with Driver's Ed. Why, thanks to the requirements for proper lessons and qualifications in handling cars, the roads are perfectly safe places to be.
You're right. We should abolish driver's ed and all drivers training programs immediately.
What's that you say? You don't want that? Because the training DOES make the streets many, many times safer than no training would?
You're too smart to say such a stupid thing.
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Well, YOU'RE the one who says that if something doesn't work - gun control in the UK, for example - then it should be abolished. Despite all the required licensing of drivers, there are still dangerous idiots on the road. So why bother licensing at all? Oh, right, because without any licensing at all it'd be a lot worse. And, um, gee, here's a thought: gun crime would be a lot worse in the UK if there weren't the current limits on gun ownership, meaing that it's not all that easy to acquire a firearm. Perhaps you should rename yourself Double Standards. 8)
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here's a thought: gun crime would be a lot worse in the UK if there weren't the current limits on gun ownership
Which, of course, flies in the face of all evidence and logic...
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Wow, Omey's taking ME to task for ignoring evidence and logic? Amazing. Let me clarify it for you, oh homeschooled one: While - as Firsty constantly reminds us - current gun control legislation does not completely stop gun crime, the simple fact is it still isn't that difficult to get a gun, and merely owning most types is a crime. That means that many of the people who might find a gun useful in committing crimes, even something like trying to scare your ex's new partner, never mind holding up the local cornershop or killing your boss (all things I've considered doing at one time or another), these people aren't able to acquire the necessary tool so don't. That doesn't always stop them, as I'm sure you'll point out, but it will in most cases. Capisce?
Now, go read your "Where's Waldo?" and let us know if you need any help. 8)