quote:Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane: OTOH if you make that small sacrifice this time because your conscience is bothering you, then perhaps you might be inclined to make a more serious one sacrifice the future...
Well, yeah, but buying a slightly smaller coat is a sacrifice? "Hey, look, Hitler only killed 1000 people on that day, rather than 1005, so really, he was good and great and super. Woo!"
quote:I just feel (as does PETA) that people ought to know where hamburgers and hot-wings and leather trenches and fur coats come from. Maybe you have no reaction to this information, maybe you do, but if you don't know the whole story how can you make an informed decision?
Oh, yeah, I know. Although I really am refusing to read "Fast Food Nation" in case it puts me off of fast food completely. But, well I dunno. I don't want to be a super pro-meat crazy dude like the sort Simon mentions, but I've had to put up with vegetarians ruining dining experiences on more than one occasion. Plus, seriously, I really can't get the wearing leather thing. I know you admit it's hypocritical, but still...it disgusts you that much to eat meat, but you'll wear it? Sorry, but I just...don't get it.
If it was simply a taste thing, then fair enough. Although I'd probably still shout at you, in the same way that I shout at people who won't try food other than a Big Mac. (And as for the health thing, as has been pointed out, not eating meat is actually quite bad for you, health wise).
quote:Also I am sorry I thought you were gay when I first came to the board.
I...what? Who?
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Hang on. Snay thought you were gay too, didn't he?
Pattern... emerging!
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist: So what does that say about all those animals wearing $400 designer outfits and being toted around in $1,500 Gucci handbags by "people" wearing cosmetics made from animals and having more silicon than the San Fransisco bay area?
Roughly the same things it says about people who put forth that showing concern for animal welfare somehow downplays human suffering.
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"...it disgusts you that much to eat meat, but you'll wear it?"
Well, this is only hypocritical if the person is refusing meat on the ground of animal cruelty. There aren't any health risks in wearing a leather jacket, that I know of. Except that you might get beat up if it's goofy-looking.
BTW, Liam, if you'd stop looking at naked pictures of Cirroc Lofton, people would stop thinking you're gay.
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There was a scare in Vancouver about arsenic laced turkeys this x-mas. Aparently some animal rights activists said they thawed some turkeysand injected arsenic into them. I'm not sure if it was PETA.
I'm all for seeing an end of animal cruelty and abuse. But some people are just too fucked.
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Well, once they're found, use them as tasters to find the poisoned turkeys. If if they don't get poisoned, you've just forced them to eat a bunch of meat, which still seems a worthwhile punishment.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: BTW, Liam, if you'd stop looking at naked pictures of Cirroc Lofton, people would stop thinking you're gay.
Now now, I haven't done that for many, many months.
Actually, does anyone still have that photo? I lost it long ago. And it might be useful for, er, blackmail purposes. Or something.
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Oh, Fast Food Nation is defintely worth reading, even if it just makes you more informed. I suppose there's the potential to put you off anything other than food you've grown or produced yourself, but that'd be an extreme case. I've been to McDonalds since I read it - one time we were at a shopping centre in Brighton and McDonalds was all they had there; another was when I picked Kate up from the hospital with this plaster cast on her nose and she was hungry: chicken McNuggets were about all she could handle. Then there's our local burger joint, Uncle Sam's, which was once one of several in the county but now seems to be the only survivor: it does amazing burgers, but hasn't had any sort of re-decoration in twenty years. If I started to ask myself how it manages to stay afloat and hold its own against the newer McDrive-thru, or the even newer KFC, I'd probably never go there again.
As the above milk-source debate proves, just about everything we eat requires a degree of blissful ignorance on our part; just don't get too ignorant, or let the food-producers dictate what you're ignorant about. That's the lesson I took away from Fast Food Nation.
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The book almost put me off mass-processed meat entirely. When I first read Fast Food Nation, I immediately asked my mom if we could please find a local butcher and start shopping there. Of course, then I forgot all about it and no longer care. Funny, that.
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Yup. Now all you need to do is do the same thing with the silly religious stuff, and everyone will love you.
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He also looks like he's picking you out of a lineup....
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