quote:Originally posted by David Sands: DebkaFile is reporting that they're NOT going to release those prisoners. It seems they have good reasons.
Exactly. Whay the fuck would they ever "parole" Dr. Germ in the first place....ever?
She's a HUGE liability! If she goes free and disapears, we'll see Zarkawai with bio-weapons.
It's grim, but there should never be negotiating with scum like this- even if it means the deaths of good people that just tried to rebuild nad help the masses.
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Well, he'd have to convice Assad to give him back the WMDs Syria is hiding for Baathists, and get there first through Kurdish territory. But, yes, you are right that Zarqawi would love to free a scientist who might feel indebted to someone for getting her out of there. (Or alternatively, might take the guerilla war to the next level in an effort to put her boss back in power.)
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"...nuke the fucking lot of them!"
Come back to this discussion when you've grown up yourself and have a real argument to contribute instead of acrimonious generalizations that just identify you as an opinionated bigot.
"...we should import one thousand more US/UN/British troops for each beheading untill the country is truly safe."
Right, because history has proven time and again that the number of troops stationed in a country is directly proportional to that country's safety.
Oh, wait.
"See how popular beheadings are after we REALLY occupy theur country."
And see how popular you will be.
I'll say this again, because I think it bears repeating: you CANNOT import democracy to where there previously was none without some long-term strategy that includes the words "diplomacy" and "commitment", nor can you enforce it with an occupying army. And if you try to do so anyway on a population as diverse as that of Iraq, heads are going to roll. Literally.
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Of course you cant "import democracy" but you CAN import troops, kill off the insurgents and Zarkawai.
People continue to die not only because there's no real plan, but because we've gone in there expecting accolades instead of gunfire. It's all half-assed: you cant expect victory if you hamstring your own forces.
Currently the "pllan" is to train the Iraqui forces to (suppoedly) police themselves but that's obviously not the priority. Keeping a status quo untill election day is. After all, a scared populace votes Republican if for no reason than they appear to have a plan.
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Come back to this discussion when you've grown up yourself and have a real argument to contribute instead of acrimonious generalizations that just identify you as an opinionated bigot.
Fuck off Cartman.
I know that you can't nuke 'em.
I know that you can't shoot 'em all.
Do you think that I'm that fucking dense?
If you actually bothered to read the last part of my last post you'd see that your comment was a waste of time - wanker.
Oh and just so you know - I'm not a bigot but hate it when people shove their religion and/or political views in my face. I can also say that I hate Tony Blair's guts and wish someone would shoot him as he's a complete and utter arsehole who got us Brits in bed with the Americans and opened up a whole nasty worms!
For the record: I do not have a problem with anyone provided they don't shove their beliefs and such in my face. I just find this stuff in Iraq all so depressing and wish someone would do something to end it and everyone's suffering once and for all!
I apologise if my comments appeared childish and offensive but others have voiced such view before and not got such a bashing as I have just had. So is that how it's going to be? A rule for you and a rule for me? If it is then all I can say is what I said above:
Fuck off Cartman.
EDIT: I said "Shoot/nuke the fucking lot of them!" Kindly get your facts right. By this I meant that the best solution would be to do as others suggest - send in troops and shoot the bastards that are cutting off heads.
"Nuke" was a poor, poor choice of work - "Blow the fuckers to pieces" (with reference to those doing the head cutting) would be much better and more accurate to my feelings on this situation.
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I don't think anyone can talk about someone doing "something to end it and everyone's suffering once and for all" without discussing political and/or religious beliefs though.
Right?
Crap... did I just post something in the Flameboard? Oh no...
Crap... did I just post something in the Flameboard? Oh no...
D'OH!
quote:I don't think anyone can talk about someone doing "something to end it and everyone's suffering once and for all" without discussing political and/or religious beliefs though.
Right?
Yep. You've hit the nail on the head!
Hey Cartman: I have cooled off a bit. I'm sorry if I offended you. Truce?
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It has nothing to do with whether or not one can kill them all. It's the fact that you obviously wish someone could.
And you can't say you were only talking about the terrorists. There is no possible way to interpret your post in that way. You were very, very clearly talking about the entire population.
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akb1979: "Pity there's not an ideal solution to get rid of them."
It's so strange, I sigh when blue-eyed peace activists repeat thoughts from the 60's, "if everyone would lay down their arms all at once, no one could fight!" Well Susie, the first one to pick up arms would be at a sort of advantage then.
Your statement, akb, is at the opposite side of the board, "if we killed just the right people at just the right time, everything would work out!". Some thought that was what the US was doing in this latest Saddam-war, killing off those faces on that pathetic and corny deck of cards of VIP-enemies, but lo and behold, new ones pop forth when their former leaders/allies are shot! The Pokemon-idiom has failed.
And talking about an "ideal solution" for mass execution/retribution borders dangerously on certain shall we say 'inappropriate' measures two generations ago.
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-------------------- Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war. ~ohn Adams
Once again the Bush Administration is worse than I had imagined, even though I thought I had already taken account of the fact that the Bush administration is invariably worse than I can imagine. ~Brad DeLong
You're just babbling incoherently. ~C. Montgomery Burns
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: It has nothing to do with whether or not one can kill them all. It's the fact that you obviously wish someone could.
OK, no arguement there.
quote: And you can't say you were only talking about the terrorists. There is no possible way to interpret your post in that way. You were very, very clearly talking about the entire population.
OK, so again no arguement - I have no great love for the people of Iraq. There I said it - happy now?
I don't consider myself to be a racist but in this, and only this, occasion I am. I'm sure that on the whole the people of Iraq are nice people - I just can't see it. Oh and if killing all those in Iraq prevents another generation of terroists from coming into the world - so be it - at least my kids will be safer.
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Hey, September 21st was international peace day. No, I didn't notice either.
quote: I don't consider myself to be a racist but in this, and only this, occasion I am. I'm sure that on the whole the people of Iraq are nice people - I just can't see it. Oh and if killing all those in Iraq prevents another generation of terroists from coming into the world - so be it - at least my kids will be safer
I really hate having to say this, but that is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen. Killing all those in Iraq is more likely to inspire more terrorism, not reduce it. Not to mention lowering us to their level.
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Reid "Frolixo" Paskiewicz wrote today's update on SomethingAwful, the topic being genocide. After going through World's Greatest Genocides, he ends the article with a theory of how to stop genocide from occurring in the future;
quote:Maybe one day there will be world peace, but I have a feeling it�s only going to come about once we round up all the extremists and violent people, put them in labor camps, and ultimately dispose of them so we can have a world only populated with a pure race of peace loving folks. We can only hope that day will soon come.
SOUNDS LIKE A MAN OF YOUR METTLE, AKB1979.
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