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Maybe one day there will be world peace, but I have a feeling it�s only going to come about once we round up all the extremists and violent people, put them in labor camps, and ultimately dispose of them so we can have a world only populated with a pure race of peace loving folks. We can only hope that day will soon come.

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SOUNDS LIKE A MAN OF YOUR METTLE, AKB1979.

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Is that an insult or a compliment?

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Originally posted by Nim:
The Pokemon-idiom has failed.

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We cant travel from town to town challenging the locals to a fight, defeating them, taking prisoners and locking them into small inhumane cages?

The hell the Pokemon idiom has failed!

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Originally posted by Wraith:
really hate having to say this, but that is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen.

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>Takes a bow<

Thank Wraith, I have my moments. I guess that means that I now just up to the high percentiles with you then, doesn't it?

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IRAQ: Al Qaeda Has Lost Its War in Iraq

September 23, 2004: While al Qaeda manages to set off one or more suicide bombs a day in Iraq, it finds itself losing the war it is waging. The bombs are killing mainly Iraqis, and the Iraqis have noticed this. Al Qaeda expects the Iraqi Islamic radicals to benefit from the bombing campaign. But the only Iraqi Islamic radicals that support al Qaeda are the Sunni Arab ones, and these are a minority of the Sunni Arab (20 percent of the population) minority. Moreover, most of the muscle, and money, for anti-government violence comes from Sunni Arab supporters of the Baath Party. Saddam Hussein led the Baath Party for over three decades. While Saddam is locked up, as are most of the senior Baath Party leaders, the thousands of thugs and enforcers that maintained Baath's control over Iraq are still out there. Many of these guys are still doing what they have always done; terrorizing Iraqis into supporting Baath, or at least not opposing it. Baath has cleverly shaped it's message to sound like a patriotic call to "expel foreign invaders." But most Iraqis are not fooled. Opinion polls consistently show that over 80 percent of the population wants nothing to do with Baath. Yet the only alternative to a democratic government is Baath, or a religious dictatorship. Al Qaeda makes itself unpopular by killing hundreds of Iraqis with suicide bombs. Baath makes itself hated with its continued terror campaign, kidnapping and assassinations. The terror tactics of al Qaeda and Baath have succeeded in some other Arab countries, much to the dismay of the locals. Syria is the only other country run by the Baath Party, and it is another Republic of Fear. Iran is dominated by Islamic conservatives, who rule by intimidation and terror. Afghanistan, when ruled by the Islamic conservative Taliban, also suffered under unpopular applications of intimidation and terror.

For centuries, Western democracies have considered the Arabs unable, or incapable of creating a democratic government, or any government that did not depend on terror and intimidation to maintain order. This debate continues, although in a more carefully worded fashion. It's not just the Baath Party and al Qaeda that have a vested interest in seeing democracy fail in Iraq. However, if you talk to a lot of people who deal with Iraqis on a regular basis (military civil affairs, reconstruction workers, troops in general) and Iraqis themselves, you find that while Iraqis still fear Baath and al Qaeda, they still want to try democracy. Iraqis know what goes on in the West. Millions of Iraqis have fled to the West (Europe and North America) in the last two decades, and the migrants have made it clear to the folks back home how democracy works. While Iraqi culture puts more emphasis on believing rumors and outrageous conspiracy theories, you still have to eat. Most Iraqis believe that a government "of the people, by the people and for the people," would be better at putting food on the table, and a DVD player on top of the new TV set, than some Baath Party thug or religious leader.

Al Qaeda will fight on until the last of their members is rounded up by Iraqi police. But al Qaeda have already lost their war in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Daryus Aden:
AKB1979: If your precious USA was invaded and occupied, what would you be doing?

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I don't think the USA is precious - don't live there so

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If someone occupied Australia (lets call this country "Evil Country Number 1")....believe me, I'd be doing what the Iraqi's are. Supporting and attempting to blow the living crap out of the soldiers of "Evil Country Number 1" at every opportunity.

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And believe me, you'd probably do the same. So - Reality check. The Iraqi's did not come after you. This we know. If you think the invasion was anything but a lie, for political and economic gain, go check yourself in to an asylum. The USA (and unfortunately) the misguided govt's of the UK and Australia invaded Iraq, without provocation or legal authority.

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So cut the crap.

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What!? But I can't do that! I've got so much of it to give! HEHE!

Oh yeah - back to my earlier comment about not being a racist. I really like to think that I am not - that I am fair, but truth be told I've had some really bad experiences with people from what are termed "ethnic minorities". I'm not racist - just bias because of what has been done to me by nasty people who happen to have different coloured skin to mine - some of them have been really cruel to me and my family which does have an affect on my judgement - no one can say that such things don't affect you beacuse they do. They are in the minority though as I have lots of friends and colleagues who are not white and are really nice to be with (I even work for a Muslim and he's OK). So to those of you who think that I am racist because I ain't! I just don't like a few people, that's all.

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Originally posted by Daryus Aden:
Ah well, if talking crap is just part of your makeup, then we are more alike than I imagined.

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Really? We are? Please, explain further?

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You may even make it into the curry order one day if you keep that up..

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Huh? Curry order? Whaaat?

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On a serious note - I don't particularly have a problem with soldiers. (Unless they act like tossers. Which I must say, a number of them do.)

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Yep, agree with you there.

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In some cases I think they are as much the victims as civillians.

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Yep, agree with you there too.

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I have a problem with the people who give the orders.

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Oh I most definately agree with you there!

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Originally posted by Daryus Aden:
AKB1979: If your precious USA was invaded and occupied, what would you be doing?

If someone occupied Australia (lets call this country "Evil Country Number 1")....believe me, I'd be doing what the Iraqi's are. Supporting and attempting to blow the living crap out of the soldiers of "Evil Country Number 1" at every opportunity.

And believe me, you'd probably do the same. So - Reality check. So cut the crap.

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

You'd undermine the first chance at a democratic government in several generations while destroying the work your own countrymen have made at rebuilding?
You'd support a radical, power-hungry cleric over a chance at democracy?
If so, you're no better than Bin Laden.

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