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Well, it is shortly after midnight here in Maryland. According to CNN, the electoral tally is currently 197 Bush, 188 Kerry. It seems like the great hope - the youth vote - didn't, er, vote. Fucking slackers.
I'm off to bed. I'm tired, and I've been switching between CNN, MSNBC, FNC and the Daily Show for the last four hours.
Click here for some interesting news on the GOP's lawsuits in Ohio.
Oh - I don't think Florida is done with, not yet. They've got 1 million absentee ballots yet to be counted, with many of those coming from traditionally Democratic precincts. So - here's hopin'.
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How can you NOT VOTE? The entire world is anxious for the results, and those fucking ignorant bastards don't even VOTE!
Anyway, it seems Bush has won. What a surprise. Another four years of cringing stupidity and blatant ignorance from the monkey-boy. But hey, if that's what the American people want...
Let me just say that this probably won't quite help reducing anti-American sentiments.
I'm looking forward to the 2008 election of Arnold Schwarzenegger as President.
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I'm going to chime in my two cents, although it is very late.
I have been seeing a lot of similarities between this election and the election of the Premier of Ontario (Canada's equivalent of a Governor). In our case, Ontario voted for what they felt was the lesser or two evils, aka the Liberal Dalton McGuinty, over the evil Conservative Ernie Eves, right hand man and successor to the dictator Mike Harris.
Flash forward one year after that election. McGuinty broke almost every single promise he made in the election. Why? Simple. He made too many and now he can't own up to it. And many people hate him for it. In retrospect, many people feel that Eves would have kept his promises, even though they were really hard-hitting promises (i.e. privatize public transit and police services, more cuts to social programs, etc).
The reason why I'm bringing this up is that somehow, I have the same bad vibes regarding John Kerry. If he were to be elected, I would not be surprised if he went down McGuinty's path. Call me the voice of experience on this one, and in case you are wondering, I did not vote in Ontario's election. I was so fed up with the candidates that I decided that it was pointless to vote.
*departs*
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Okay, but, a Kerry who doesn't do half the things he's talked about is still about eleventy billion times better than a Bush who "stays the course" he's laid out over the past four years.
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Pointless to vote. I never understood that. It's your right to vote. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain either. Although obviously, in a two-party system, your choices are severely limited.
But a similar point has been brought up by several 'experts' on TV here. If Kerry wins now, he ends up with a Republican Senate and House, and a number of issues like Iraq and the deficit. It would possibly backfire on him in a terrible way.
But still.. even a popular majority for George W. Bush. I can't understand it. It seems Americans live in a different universe or something, where George Bush actually did something good. It could be the way the media cover America, but almost anywhere outside the US, there is extremely little sympathy for Bush.
Saltah'na
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TSN: It's called credibility. Over here, in Ontario, McGuinty may not be as bad as Harris or Eves, but he still raises up a pretty bad stink over here regarding constantly broken and very extravagant promises. I don't like it. Besides, as leader of one of the most powerful nations in the country, you'd want to have a course plotted for the future, not lose your rudder in the sea and drift around going nowhere.
Harry: Neither the Conservatives or Liberals here put out anything that gave me any interest. The Liberals were close with some issues that I find dear to my heart, but I found that it was hard to trust him given all the other promises that he had made. In the end I decided I had better things to do with my time than to haggle with the electoral office (while I lived in one riding, my registered address was with my parents, in which I had to drive a half hour to that polling station just to vote). McGuinty then reneged on every promise involving every issue I wanted dealt with, and concentrated on his "other priorities". To me, that is BAD BAD BAD.
Even in the next election, I won't vote Liberal over this, and the Conservatives don't appeal to me as an alternative choice. And barring a radical overhaul of their policies, I wouldn't be voting New Democrat either (half socialist, half liberal).
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249 Bush to 242 Kerry right now. Hey, maybe in about a year when everyone (else) is pissed off with Bush, you should get Gray Davis to spearhead a recall of the President. 8)
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254 for Bush now. CNN is making up plots for an unlikely Kerry win. For the sake of Democratic credibility, he should probably not go the long and awkard way.
OTOH, within four years the world is going to end anyway.
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Y'know, I've only just started to realise how the TV seen on TV (trendy 30 year olds sitting on New York cofee houses watching the Simpsons) is completely different from what the majority of America seems to be, and that's nice, quiet little communities billions of miles from anywhere interesting, full of people who've never left their home and have no desire to.
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Watching the election coverage with things so neck and neck, its clear to me that people need a greater number of viable options.
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I woke up about an hour ago sick to my stomach. Urgh. I really don't understand how things went from 12 hours ago thinking "Kerry's got this all wrapped up" to now.
On the bright side - even if, as looks likely, Kerry loses, then what does that mean? That Bush will be held responsible for the growing debacle in Iraq. And, as I think likely, another terrorist attack within the United States will not, in the long term, help him.
I really think George W. Bush is in for a very rough second term - one that he might not even see through, especially if public outcry (re: Iraq, other bunglings) reaches such levels that the Republican Congress might see long-term benefits in impeaching him in hopes of not facing a complete blowout in '08.
This is, of course, a lot of prediction.
PS - my friend Lisa worked on the campaign of Dan Jennings for the House of Representatives in Indiana district 8. She moved to Indiana six months ago, and has spent the last 1/2 year sleeping on a floor, and subsisting on pbj and water. Dan Jennings lost. I think she's out getting piss drunk right now.
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I had a good laugh when they said on CNN that Bush would probably shore up his increased Hispanic vote by putting a Hispanic justice in the Supreme Court. Get real! There are plenty of rich asshole white lawyers who imagine it'll be their turn before "some wetback." Unless of course the President gets told by TPTB that he's had his fun, and his second term is going to be all about making it look like the elction of President Cheney in 2008 is something that could ever happen. . .
quote: ...public outcry (re: Iraq, other bunglings) reaches such levels ...
Ehm, NO. Because the majority of Americans do not give a fuck about Iraq, the deficit, equal rights or any of that. We have seen today that the majority of Americans are right-wing orthodox Christian conservatives. Whatever public outcry there will be, it will still only be from that same left-wing 'elite' minority that runs blogs and watches John Stewart and Micheal Moore.
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