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BlueElectron
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No doubt you guys have heard that police raid in Maimi to take the Cuban boy.

I don't really know what happen to start out with, so no commment on the police actions.

But dude, does the police have to point that MP-5 at that Cuban boy's head?

If I'm a boy at his age, I'll be pissing my pants, not to mention the nightmares for countless nights.

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Saltah'na
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Did they really do that to Elian? I never heard of such a thing.

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BlueElectron
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Oh yeah, they did it, it's like on every single "special report" on all the news channel.

And the best excuse that law enforcements can come up with is "the police didn't put his finger on the trigger"

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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Jeff Raven
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Well, looks like Clinton's gonna get that legacy he's been talking about.

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Omega
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One is forced to wonder what deal he's struck with Castro...

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BlueElectron
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Deal?

Oh my God! Clinton have "red" written all over his face! (plus lier and cigar smoker, although I doubt the way he smokes his cigar is appropriate, if you catch my drift.)

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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Curry Monster
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Yup, he's handing over the whole US arsenal to Castro, ya know?

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BlueElectron
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Amazing! Clinton never seized to intrigue me with his irrational decision.

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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Sol System
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What a psycho that president is! I hope when my son is kidnapped that the police stay as far away from the situation as possible.

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AndrewR
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Isn't this just a lot of bru-ha-ha over a custody case between two countries without diplomatic relations?

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PsyLiam
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Why's he got "red" all over his face? Has he been caught doing something embarrassing (like maybe peeing in the White-House kitchen sink)?

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Baloo
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I haven't been following this story very closely. I have a few questions:

  1. Would the family have refused to hand the child over if a federal marshall had shown up at the front door with a court order for the child to be turned over?

  2. Was it a significant possibility that the family would use weapons to ensure that the child remained on their premises?

  3. What reasoning did the federal government use to justify drug-raid tactics to secure a small child for deportation (or whatever they're calling it)?

Federal marshalls don't do that sort of raid without being ordered to do exactly thus. The action would have to have been approved by Janet Reno, who would have, in turn, have had to inform the President of her intentions.

Politely, but firmly asking for what it wants does not seem to be a part of the Justice Department's repertoir of late. This worries me (though not endlessly -- I've had more pressing issues on my agenda of late).

--Baloo

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Kosh
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Baloo: The government has been trying to arrange something peaceful for a couple of weeks, but the family has backed away from everything. There has been as many as 1000 people out side the house, most of the time, protesting aginst sending the kid back. About the only way to remove the boy from the house was a raid like this one. They went in at 5am, while the crowd was at it's smallest. They went in armed, reportedly, because they were afraid that the uncle may be armed. A Female Marshal (It was the US Marshals office), who spoke Spanish, carried Elian out the door, explaining to him that they were taking him to his father. Since I have lost all faith in the press, the whole thing boils down,for me, to the fact that the father has the right to claim his son.

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Omega
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Well, since he never had rights to his son in his life, why would he now? The kid was born years after they were divorved, and the mother was the primary caretaker. All children are wards of the Cuban state anyway. We're not talking about a custody battle between two relatives. The father will not have custody as long as he lives in Castro's Cuba. This is a battle between Castro and the Miami relatives, with Clinton on Castro's side.

And just out of curiosity, exactly why does the attorney general, the equivalent of a district attourney, have the authority to remove a child from its home without any court authorization? Why does she have that authority under any circumstances? It's simply not in the job discription.

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Sol System
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Omega, you don't happen to have any relatives in, oh, say Iraq, that would be willing to take you in, do you?

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