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Aethelwer
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"Democracy/Republic > Dictatorship"

Prove it.

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Jeff Raven
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"Monarchy is based on the erroneous belief that one man is smarter than a hundred men. Democracy is based on the equally erroneous belief that a hundred men are smarter than one man. Neither works."

R. A. Hienlien

At least, I think that's how it goes. Close enough.

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Omega
Some other beginning's end
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"Well how stupid of me! Rush is right Of course. That's an excellent reason to blindly listen to him."

Forgive me, Daryus, but that's the stupidist thing I've ever heard you say. How exactly can you "blindly listen" to someone? (And no aural medium jokes, please.) Just because I listen to him doesn't mean I agree with him on everything, for the simple reason that he said it. For example, he's pro-death penalty, whereas I'm not. And you didn't respond to my point that I get info from him that no one else supplies. That alone is a valid reason to listen.

"Oh by the way, I suggest you get out more, try living in the now. Talk to people and attempt to apply these magnificent theories of yours in real life. Then observe the consequences. Take that on as your pet project."

Hey, I'm going into politics, remember?

"Your woefully misconstrued opinions of Cuba are quite humerous indeed. You seem to think it's a vile, pithy hell-hole in which the populace (Those that do not die of typhoid fever) has to eat their own feces in order to survive (That is, of course, if they have the ability to eat, and haven't had their digestive system sold to mercenaries for money to buy nuclear devices in order to bomb the capitalist pig-dogs into submission.)"

Exaguration is such a wonderful thing.

"How do you know that your views on Cuba are correct, and not a result of ignorance?"

You might want to start actually reading what I say before arguing with it. Once again: my statements come from Castro himself, or people who lived in Cuba. I'd say that my sources are quite likely to be accurate.

"all this seems to be hypocritical when we treat Cuba as "hell on earth", but we fail to give China the same treatment."

Gotta agree here. I'd treat China the same way as Cuba. 'Course, I'm not president...

First:

"I own a book that points out numerous time he [Rush] was wrong"

I've read that one. You might be interested to know that most of the "errors" pointed out in said book were either jokes, or because Rush's sources were inaccurate. There were some honest mistakes in there, however. If reduced to the actual errors on Rush's part, it'd be down to a few pages. In twelve years on the radio, one year on TV, two books, and a long-running newsletter, that's pretty darned good. Just so you know...

I'm beginning to really enjoy having you as an ally, First. A person who makes logical arguments, with access to scads of information. What more could I ask for?

Oh, I know. An opponent that's the same way.

Now would anyone care to respond to the points I raised while we were still on topic, or will you conceed the debate?

On Democracy:

"Democracy is good. I say this because other systems are worse."
- Jawaharlal Nehru

"Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time."
- E. B. White

"Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people."
- Oscar Wilde

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

"Democracy is a form of government that substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few."
- G. B. Shaw

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You are wise, witty, and wonderful, but you spend far too much time reading this sort of trash.


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BlueElectron
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Canada IS the BEST country in the world.

And I said this with the backing from all the nations from the UN for five straight years.

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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Jeff Raven
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*rolls eyes* Don't start THAT again, BlueElectron...

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BlueElectron
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What? Isn't Canada voted to be the best country to live in for five straight years?

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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First of Two
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Don't count me fully in your camp just yet, Omega. I'm STILL certain that Creationism is a load of horse manure.

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Aethelwer
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If the US were to declare war on Canada, I think something would be said about which is really the best country...

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And the US would do that why?

I think Muffinland is the best place to live.
People...live in muffins!
*looks around, sees that nobody gets obscure reference and leaves*

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Aethelwer
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Well, actually, the US wouldn't have any reason, unless there was suddenly a moose shortage.

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Elim Garak
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Or if we started charging extra tax on geese.
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Think of the headlines for US news when they do invade Canada.

US military advances were countered by heavy resistances from the Canadian RCMPs stationed along the border.

Highly unlikely ^0^

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Okey, okey, here's my question:

If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?


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Omega
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Well, since the literal creation story can neither be directly prooven or disprooven, there's not much either of us can do there, First. I can proove that God exists, and that He created the universe, but how and when are completely up for grabs.

But let's not start that again.

So, can we stop the Canada bashing and get back to Elian?

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Curry Monster
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Well, you know I enjoy giving you a hard time. Thing is, you are sooo serious and absolutely sure you're right, that from my view its hilarious. Oh, and just because you want to become a politician doesn't mean that you have any real link with the woes of those who check in their time sheets every day and struggle to pay off a mortgage.

We could go back to Elian, but I think by now it is obivious just how far apart our orbits are on this issue. You're at the North Pole, we're hovering over the South. I can see us running around in circles yet again.

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Diane
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Omega, let's assume for a minute that you're right, and we should've kept Elian for the reasons you've mentioned. But because his father is in Cuba, does that mean he'll never see his father again? On another note, numerous Cubans who try to get into the U.S. are deported without so much as a peep from the media because they don't have rich relatives living in Florida. Are they THAT different from Elian? Sure, he's a child, but do adults suffer less than children? Have they not suffered AS children? How many mothers do you know feed themselves before they feed their children? (I know, the same ones who leave babies in locked cars) So if you think we oughtta keep all Cuban children who come here, shouldn't we keep all their parents (i.e. all adults), too? For that matter, if we're supposed to treat China the same way, shouldn't we take in all illegal Chinese immigrants, too? Where do you draw the line?

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At the barricades of freedom!
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