After Cain slew Able and was zapped by God and then sent into exile, he went to go live with the nomads of that area. He then married into that tribe and begat children from his wife(s).
Question: If Adam & Eve (And later on Cain & Able) were the only people on Earth at the time, where did the NOMADS come from?
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After Cain slew Able and was zapped by God and then sent into exile, he went to go live with the nomads of that area.
Says what verse? The Bible says nothign about nomads, as I recall. All we know is that he left. As for his kids, I'd bet he took a sister with him. Then there's the fact that he probably lived several centuries, what with no one being able to kill him. IIRC, he may very well not have had kids until he was six hundred years old, and thus could have married a twenty year old eighth-great-niece once the world was thoroughly populated.
As for the point of this excercize, it's for me to show that there are no contradictions in the Bible, as some of you you claim there to be. I'm waiting for one that's actually a problem to refute. Come on, Rob, you can do better than this.
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In other words, you're just trying to start a fight with us because no matter what evidence we come up with to disprove you, you're just gonna dismiss it. Well, up yours, pal. We're not gonna play this one with you. So go away and play with yourself.
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You can't 'show' that there are no contradictions in the Bible. All you can do is come up with 'theories' that appear to fit what the Bible says. Since your theories are ENTIRELY unverifiable (no reliable historians were around to know how long Cain REALLY lived, and no outside sources can even verify his - or his 'sister's' - existence) attempting to determine their validity is pointless.
When even the most scatterbrained theory fails you, you fall back on metaphor (Oh, the Bible is literally true, except for the parts that don't make sense when they're taken literally, and those are metaphor, which is why when Jesus said that the end would come within his listener's lifetimes, and it didn't, he meant metaphorically) and expect the rational world to go along with that claptrap.
And when all else fails, you fall back on the 'concept' of Infallibility and Miracles, once again unverifiable, to explain away even the parts of the Bibble that violate established physics (The Sun can't hold still in the sky, but the Bibble says it did, so God musta performed a couple dozen miracles having to do with the Earth's rotation, centripetal force, and the gravitational constant of the universe that morning.)
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Slightly off topic, but, may I ask how believers in the Bible explain two people populating the entire world without there being incest and MAJOR genetic deterioration? And while we're here, how the Earth has only been in existance for 6,000 years, plus or minus a couple?
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Obviously, because the Lord has decreed it so. Or Metaphored it so. Because the Jack van Impe said so. because 1 000 000 Huntley Street said so. Because the Bible said so. Because they tell us everything. Every answer. Every question, it makes no difference. As long as someone tells me. I need to be told.
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may I ask how believers in the Bible explain two people populating the entire world without there being incest and MAJOR genetic deterioration?
Who says there wasn't incest? As for genetic deterioration, I don't see why that would have to be a problem. Yeah, you'd start out with a guy marrying his sister, but then you'd have first cousins, then second cousins, and so forth. Only persistant inbreeding causes major problems.
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BUT THEY ARE ALL RELATED. There is no "new" genetic material introduced into the gene pool. ALL of it would have had to come from Adam and Eve. People are allowed to marry first and second cousins because either the aunt or uncle is related only by marriage, not by blood, therefore there are enough genetic variations to allow intermarriage at that level.
That is NOT the case with the whole Adam and Eve thing. Therefore, by about the third or fourth generation, the population of the world would consist of mentally and physically handicapped people.
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Something funny about asking the question "How does the Bible contradict itself" is that I've seen Omega say often to similar demands about gun laws ("How are they do this or that...") that he'll often answer with "tell me how they DON'T do this or that..." Just an interesting observation.
So, "How does the Bible not contradict itself?"
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Ah, but see, I'm not saying that I can prove that the Bible doesn't contradict itself. OTHERS have said that it does. I'm simply asking for clarification.
------------------ "Omega is right." -Jeff Karrde, March 18, 2001 08:47 PM
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