Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
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And when you do have the time, let me know.
I'll be glad to crush your skull 2 times over again. Or 3. Or 4. Or 5. Or 6...........
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Prakesh: I apologise if this has ever been discussed in another venue but...
Where did you get that sig? I don't mean the source (I see you gave a reference) - what does it mean to you?
I'm a hardcore agnostic myself - baptised earlier in life - so I guess I'm apostate. These days, all religions look equally loony to me (Heinlein). But that quote gets me - I laugh every time I see it.
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It's probably just another one of those quotes that sound good, like: "Democracy is like a religion, where jackals are worshipped by jackasses."
------------------ It never stops, when my mama ask me will I change I tell her yeah, but it's clear I'll always be the same Until the end of time - Tupac Shakur, Untill the End of Time
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As it says, it's from the Tool song "Ænema". Basically, the song is about all the stuff that's wrong w/ today's pop culture in the US. According to the song, the best solution will be if southern California falls into the ocean, so we'll be rid of the source of the problem.
I know some people hate when entire songs are posted, but I'm going to do it anyway. *L*
"Ænema", from the Tool album Ænima:
Some say the end is near Some say we'll see Armageddon soon Certainly hope we will I sure could use a vacation from this Bullshit three-ring circus sideshow of Freaks here in this Hopeless fucking Hole we call L.A. The only way to Fix it is to Flush it all away Any fucking time Any fucking day Learn to swim See you down in Arizona Bay Fret for your figure And fret for your latte And fret for your lawsuit And fret for your hairpiece And fret for your Prozac And fret for your pilot And fret for your contract And fret for your car, it's a Bullshit three-ring circus sideshow of Freaks here in this Hopeless fucking Hole we call L.A. The only way to Fix it is to Flush it all away Any fucking time Any fucking day Learn to swim See you down in Arizona Bay Some say a comet will fall from the sky Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits And some say the end is near Some say we'll see Armageddon soon Certainly hope we will I sure could use a vacation from this Stupid shit Silly shit Stupid shit One great big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied Learn to swim Learn to swim Learn to swim Mom's gonna fix it all soon Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it oughta be Learn to swim Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones Fuck all these gun-toting hip gangster wanna-bes Learn to swim Fuck retro-anything, fuck your tattoos Fuck all you junkies and fuck your short memory Learn to swim Fuck smiley glad-hands with hidden agendas Fuck these dysfunctional, insecure actresses Learn to swim 'Cause I'm praying for rain I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way I wanna watch it all go down Mom, please flush it all away I wanna see it go right in and down I wanna watch it go right in Watch you flush it all away Time to bring it down again Don't just call me a pessimist Try and read between the lines I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend I wanna see it come down Bring it down Suck it down Flush it down
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Those posts take me ten minutes to write. These take me an hour. An hour which, unfortunately, I don't have tonight. Don't worry, I'll be back here soon. My schedule just loosened up.
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The inscription on the top of the cross is different in FOUR DIFFERENT GOSPELS.
There are no quotation marks in ancient Greek, as I recall. It was not necessarily intended as an exact quote, as it has been translated, but insted to convey what the sign indicated.
re: cock crowing
A number of manuscripts of Mark don't say "twice".
"He reigned three years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Michaiah the daughter of Uriel of Gibeah. And there was war between Abijah and Jeroboam." - II Chronicles 13:2
"And after her he took Maachah the daughter of Absalom; which bare him Abijah, and Attai, and Ziza, and Shelomith." - II Chronicles 11:20
Well, two apparent contradictions. Abijah is listed as the son of Maacah in chapter 11, and is listed as the son of Michaiah in chapter 13. However, a number of manuscripts, in fact, say, Maacah in chapter 13. It's also possible that this is a reference to BOTH his parents.
Then that leads to another apparent contradiction. Maacah, daughter of Absalom, or Maacah, daughter of Uriel? But the word translated as "daughter" in chapter 13 can also be translated as "granddaughter". Or again, two parents.
Thus, no contradiction.
Matthew 1 attempts to give a geneology of of Jesus. In so doing, he lists 16 generations from the time they were brought into Babylon. Then, in verse 17 he says that from the carrying away into Babylon until Christ there were 14 generations. More fuzzy math.
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Just to bring you up to speed, everything in the Bible is meant literally. Until it's shown to make no sense, or is contradicted by something else in the Bible. Then it's all down to the context, or has to be translated correctly. But don't worry, Omeychops has it direct from God what he really meant. 8)
Pardon? It IS the literal truth. Just not the DETAILED literal truth at times. It doesn't tell us what KIND of fish Peter caught when Jesus was around, does it? Yet no one objects.
Tim:
OK, the groups.
1 Abraham 2 Isaac 3 Jacob 4 Judah 5 Perez 6 Hezron 7 Ram 8 Amminadab 9 Nahshon 10 Salmon 11 Boaz 12 Obed 13 Jesse 14 David
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Nope, Voggy has you on that one. We've discussed several incidents where the literal truth makes no sense, no matter how much 'detail' you suppose into it. A bat is not a bird. The Sun doesn't hang still in the sky, The end didn't come in JC's followers' lifetimes, despite his promise.
You ALWAYS fall back on metaphor, simile, and supposition in these instances, which is the diametric OPPOSITE of literal truth.
You've talked yourself into an untenable position.
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You ALWAYS fall back on metaphor, simile, and supposition in these instances, which is the diametric OPPOSITE of literal truth.
You've talked yourself into an untenable position.
Single statements can be metaphoric. Entire stories aren't. The BIBLE isn't metaphoric, as Eclipse implied, but certain sections of it are: parables, bits of Revelation, et al. I point this out every time, Rob, and you never seem to remember.
A bat is not a bird.
Who said it was?
The Sun doesn't hang still in the sky
As a general rule, no, but major atmospheric distortion can do amazing things to your perception of astronomical objects. Not to mention the possibility of localized temporal distortion. Omnipotence is nifty.
The end didn't come in JC's followers' lifetimes, despite his promise.
He made no such promise.
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Omega: No, it says there are fourteen generations from Abraham to David. If we count out fourteen generations, we find that this is meant inclusively: both Abraham and David are counted. So, if there are fourteen generations from David to the Babylonian captivity, then both the starting and ending generations must be counted again. Otherwise, the whole thing makes no sense. It points out this coincidence of fourteen generations between all these important events. But, if you change the method of counting, the coincidence doesn't exist.
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If bits of Revelations are metaphorical, why aren't bits of Genesis?
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