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AndrewR
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Clearly they wanted Dax and Worf alive - otherwise they would have killed them on site. Why then put them into quarters/cells that were not very hospitable to their natural living-states? I don't think that would happen.

Breen being quite pleasent, is subjective.

As mentioned:

Weyoun is a bullshite artiste
Pleasent compared to what?
etc. etc.

I'd take anything Weyoun says with a grain of salt, he was just trying to make Damar feel like an idiot every chance he got.

Besides, maybe Vorta like vastly different conditions, and only suffer being in Federation standard Temps and pressures?

The Cardassians like their atmospheres to be much hotter and humid remember.

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Harry
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Good point about the environment on the ship though. There wasn't any evidence of airlocks, so perhaps the Breen are just very keen on their fridge suits, or really like to be mysterious (they apparently followed Interstellar Imagebuilding Class).

The other reason could be that Weyoun ordered a nice comfortable environment. Probably to show poor Damar that Breen is 'quite pleasant'.

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But Damar didn't go to Breen, it was just hear-say via Weyoun.

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Harry
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But wasn't Damar also on the ship? Remember him smiling about Weyoun's death?

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I'm a bit unsure about the line, but Weyoun wither said that Breen was quite pleasant or quite warm, one or the other.

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You're conflating events, I think. Worf and Dax are picked up by a Breen ship that has the Founder and Weyoun on it, having just signed their treaty. The ship later reaches Cardassia Prime, where everyone gets off, Worf kills Weyoun, and Damar makes his decision to fight back against the Dominion by helping Worf and Dax escape.

I think.

Come to think of it, even with Damar's help it might be a little difficult to get off Cardassia Prime. Hmm.

"Maybe you should talk to Worf again."

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MinutiaeMan
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Here's the sequence:

Dax and Worf are stranded on some planet. They get picked up by the Breen. Later, that same Breen ship meets a Dominion ship carrying the Founder, Weyoun, and Damar. After the Breen beam over to the Dominion ship with their "gifts," we never see the inside of the Breen ship again.

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perhaps the Breen are just very keen on their fridge suits

Well, there's one point in favor of the body odor theory... [Wink]

Seriously, the Breen probably had a special atmosphere-variable section of their ship. Or perhaps all their ships have variable-temperature sections, considering that their own preferences are fairly abnormal. They wouldn't want to kill their prisoners with the cold -- and there's no sense in wandering into an uncomfortable environment that contains potentially dangerous prisoners without protection.

Let's put it this way. If you captured a Breen and locked him in the freezer, would YOU want to go feed him wearing only shorts and a t-shirt? I know I'd be too busy shivering to fight back if he tried to escape... It's simple common sense.

And of course, that's assuming that the only purpose of the suits is for refrigeration.

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Perhaps they were some sort of Romulan sect using the environment suits as a ruse? They wanted Romulus after all?

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This is totally off the wall but I have noticed a few more Star Wars creatures winding up in the Trek universe, for example the creature that Q tormented was called "The Calimarain" (Deja Q TNG) and the race in the Delta Quadrant (Persistance of Vision VGR) were called the Bothans. So maybe Princess Leia was posing as a Breen bounty hunter

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Sol System
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Uh, are you suggesting that the Calamarain were a reference to the Mon Calimari (proof that Lucas has an evil sense of humor and enjoys pain)? That's an analogy more stretched than this one: spiders are like birds with notepads.
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It's a trap!
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Curry Monster
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The suits could serve multiple purposes beyond refrigeration. Including being body armour and providing air filtration.

As far as what Weyoun said, he seemed to be playing with Damars' mind.

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Perhaps the Breen don't evaporate when the suit is breached. Perhaps the suit simply is an empty exoskeleton, and the actual occupant is an AI or a cricket-like critter living in the snout of the helmet.

Perhaps the Breen sneakily attack those who breach their suits, and then begin a parasitic life in the body of the breacher, making him or her do stupid things like fail to kill a career-compromising bastard daughter or a mortal yet momentarily vulnerable enemy.

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Harry
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Yes, and perhaps the suits really are empty remote-controled decoys, and the real Breen is a 13-year old scriptkiddy from a small moon in orbit around Planet X.

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