....talk about a romantic killjoy! ...the run for first base is interrupted when your date suddenly turns into a frellin' monster!!!! Psychotherapy and Viagra for poor Wesley after that little "encounter" for sure!
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I don't have a picture to link to - but I picture the Tholians to have a body somewhat like the EVA pod seen in the TNG tech manual - without the little grappling claws of course - but just the general body shape - sort of hexagonal and tapers down to a (rounded) point probably in a reddish colour... And somehow floats!! I'm guessing silk would comeout of that end part.
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Please, no more aliens who have never studied the law of gravity. We had enough with the amazing floating giant "viruses."
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How would they build ships (or a civilization for that matter) with no appendeges? A bunch of crystal blocks bumping into things to build dwellings is just too stupid to think about for long..... It's got to be some sort of helmet or part of a larger creature. While we're at it: why would a reptile,like the Gorn, have segmented eyes? Their ship design and computer systems would have to be radically different than everyone elses....
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The thing about low gravity is, there's still gravity. That's why they call it low gravity. Unless you're going to equip your average Tholian with seriously large wings, or immerse them in liquid, or build them out of mylar and fill them full of helium, they are going to come to rest on the ground.
Unless...
*sigh*
Unless you give them telekinetic powers. But please, no more of that either. Think of the children.
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Their planet would have no atmosphere. And everything on it would fly off into space. Including the bits of the planet itself.
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Not...the..Voth! I thought I'd seen the dumbest idea possible with the old "Dinosaucers" cartoon (intended for children)...but the Voth was waaay worse. Just chuck the fossil record out an airlock...after all the viewers can't possibly have a grasp of rudimentary science, can they? I'd rather see the triumphant return of "floating Abe Lincon in space" before the frellin' Voth!
I would like to see the Gorn come back: mabye a little more limber this time, but please not flat looking CGI monsters like Species 8472!
I personally think that Tholians are all those lost glass marbles that kids supposedly played with when our grandparents were young. ...how many marbles have any of you actually seen? Think about it.
And yes, telekinesis is a terrible idea. ..and no one ever said that "Tholian silk" comes from a Tholian. That would be kind of disgusting (like us exporting our fecees to them).
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A lot of people think that "Distant Origins" (the episode with the Voth) was perhaps one of the best Voyager episodes made. I agree with them.
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The existence of an intelligent "dinosaurian" species predating us by a hundred millions years or so is unlikely, but it is far from impossible. Fossils are hard to make. There could be whole hosts of interesting organisms who lived in habitats simply not conducive to the production of fossils.
Of course, in practice, there would be evidence of anything like us existing in the past. Cities, for instance. Oh, not ruins, to be sure. Any visual trace will have long since been ground to dust, and possibly even sunk underneath the surface of the planet thanks to the movement of the plates. But the building materials would still be there, in concentrations far too high to be natural. Were we to find such a thing, we would have to conclude that all these metals and such had been gathered together by something. But we don't.
And, with something like the Voth, who must have at least had rockets before leaving Earth, the chances of finding their artifacts skyrockets, since, say, a moon base built 100 million years ago would still be recognizable as an artificial construction.
Alas, no such base would seem to exist.
So, uh, where was I going. Oh, right.
1.) It is possible that we are not the first sentient species on the planet, though it is unlikely, probably very unlikely.
2.) The Voth would probably have left evidence of their existence detectable to 24th century scientists.
3.) "Distant Origins" was a good episode anyway, or so I feel.
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If these guys evolved from dinosauria, then the evidence wold be very apparent by the 24th century. Archeology is a relatively new science to mankind and Paleontology is even more recent, but in a couple hundred years I just can't buy that no one, with planetary sensors and scanners everywhere on earth, has ever come upon evidence of a culture that would have taken thousands of years to evolve to spaceflight levels of inteligence.
If they had discovered that the Voth really were not from Earth (after jumping to conclusions)I would have liked the Episode alot. The acting was better than adverage for Voyager, but the premise was silly.
They could have also made the Voth from Vulcan or another Federation world and made it more plausable. Especially if the Voth came from Vulcan: Tuvok in Chakotay's place works much better for me, and Vulcan's past is murky at best (even spock was really suprised by the Romulans!).
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Mars. Mars needs Voth.
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