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Geez- talk about bashing something before it's even aired... There are a lot of "old timers/purists" that are going to hate it, but the whole point is to get young people that have never gotten into it because it's an old show on board (and so to make money from them, obviously).
I look at it just like the Trek calanders: every year there is a TOS calander that uses the same poor quality video captures for each month, then there's the SOTL calander that uses CGI to reproduce the TOS Enterprise.
I dont personally know anyone that buys that TOS version calander, but they sure are vocal about the effects!
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Correct me if I'm wrong....but I think I see...a nipple.
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That actually looks oddly like a diagram of a phaser that showed up a couple years back. If I recall it was one of the slides that Khan looked at in "space seed".
Here's the old thread but the links to the scans are long gone. If that's correct then that means that the original intention was probably for the Enterprise to have one of these atop all 3 glowing domes. Makes sence.
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The weird thing is, that doodad is not visible anywhere "real" - not the original large photographic model as seen on screen, not in its 1991 restoration, not on Greg Jein's "Trials and Tribble-ations" version. The "real" ship has just the nipple, not the clit.
Perhaps we do have to think of this as some sort of retractable or jettisonable instrumentation...
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Would we have seen it on TV there or not? Its a really small detail and most of the times we see that area very close, its moving and blurred.
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: The weird thing is, that doodad is not visible anywhere "real" - not the original large photographic model as seen on screen, not in its 1991 restoration, not on Greg Jein's "Trials and Tribble-ations" version. The "real" ship has just the nipple, not the clit.
Perhaps we do have to think of this as some sort of retractable or jettisonable instrumentation...
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I pray you never actually encountered a woman with a clit that looks anythng like that.
Maybe it's the tractor-beam emitter...or a phaser configuration for less advanced (but far more numerous) starships of the era? That would explain Kahn's studying it (potential opponent's strengths and all that).
It could also be what is inside the glowy domes: that white glow could be the phaser turrett's shield.
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quote:I pray you never actually encountered a woman with a clit that looks anythng like that.
Coming out of her nipple? Shudder...
I can't really claim I discern the looks of the thing. What is that extension like - a cylinder? I can't even quite tell its size and orientation in the fuzzy photos...
I'm vaguely afraid that the doodad was there when TOS photography started (as documented in a number of places, I now hear) but was lost before anything of substance was filmed for TOS, and that it's actually quite out of place for the CGI model. It just doesn't seem to be there any more later on.
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Just something I was thinking about watching TOS this morning on TV.
The new 'effects' they do better not ADD things that are achronistic - i.e. stuff that is established later but they decide to use for the 'earlier' show - essentially 'rewriting history'.
Fine, update the shots - clear up things but don't go adding in things that change what the original episode was trying to convey.
Having said that - should they go and change the headstone seen in "Where No Man Has Gone Before"? From James R. Kirk to James T. Kirk? Which is more correct? I mean the premise of an entire episode was based around him being 'James R. Kirk' to sound like 'Jackson Roykirk'.
He may have changed his name by deedpoll after that episode to James T. Kirk? I would assume before Space Seed (if that works) since Khan calls him James T. Kirk doesn't he?
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Will they add Chekov to Space Seed? Maybe they'll just impose his picture and biography on the monitor Kahn is looking at (thus replacing that phaser diagram). I could live with that level of tweaking.
While it would be very difficult to do, I'd love to see a better interior in the shuttlecraft.
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quote:Having said that - should they go and change the headstone seen in "Where No Man Has Gone Before"? From James R. Kirk to James T. Kirk? Which is more correct? I mean the premise of an entire episode was based around him being 'James R. Kirk' to sound like 'Jackson Roykirk'.
Maybe he has two middle initials and he usually drops the R out of preference? My old man's middle names are Charles & Martin, but he's dropped the Charles sine his school days, though it's still legally his name, you won't find it on any legal documentation outside of his birth certificut and most probably his tax record.
So in Kirk's case only what's-his-name with the silver eyes knows his 2nd middle name since they go back a long way. You might even call his including it on the stone a personal taunt as Kirk clearly don't like whatever 'R' stands for. Though god knows how it could be much worse than Tiberius. As for Nomad, I presum it did a full scan of the data banks which has his other middle name in there somewhere but failed to comprehend that kirk doesn't use it. Not a huge stretch considering it mistook James for Jackson.
There, see? You don't need CG to correct a continuity goof, just a little imagination. As for what they'll do; the Okudas are involved so I'm sure they're well aware of the continuity issuse. I just doubt they'll bother correcting them. I wouldn't.
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Now that would be cute. The Chekov thing, I mean.
Although improving the shuttlecraft would also be desirable, yes. Perhaps drop the pretense that the three bow squares are windows? Instead, transform the entire inner front surface to one big viewscreen, so that our heroes can actually look at the imagery without first fetching a ladder from the aft compartment.
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