The Dauntless is also featured and the magazine claims it is half the size of Voyager. I seem to recall that they appeared to be roughly the same size.
P.S. Fitz, are those my scans that you enlarged? Looks like I hit the fill button in PSP when I was trying to clean up the first Steamrunner pic. There is a lot of black that has creeped in over parts of the ship.
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How the conversations slip by when you're away for a day. Anyway, getting blown up by the Borg in a single shot is not exactly something to be ashamed of.
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FINALLY! Some decent ventral-side views of the Sabre and Steamer! Of note:
-Where's the shuttlebay on the Sabre? Those small doors on the aft undercut? -Likewise, the placement of the Steamrunner's impulse engines are strange. They stream right into the nacelle pylons... -The arrangement of the hull markings on the Steamer's ventral side is odd. Replicated only on the Constitution underside, I believe. -Still nothing on the placement of the Sabre's torpedo launchers. Also, with its three phaser strips, there's no coverage aft. Kinda like the Defiant...
Mark
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I take that back - on the Sabre, there's a small opening just under the main deflector, akin to the launchers on the Sovereign. However, there's no matching apperture on the aft side, though. The oval thing is the core ejection hatch, from the ventral view.
Mark
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Has anybody ever done an in-depth analysis of the size of the Sabre class, the way there are excellent treatises of Akira or Steamrunner or Defiant size?
If one just counts the window rows, the ship *could* be double the Encyclopedia length and closer to the FF (and now possibly Magazine) length - and the numerous tiny lifepods would also make more sense. And those front "shuttlebay doors" would actually allow a shuttle through... I tried hunting through available screencaps of FC and DS9 battles, but there weren't any obvious comparison shots where a Sabre would fly in front of or behind a ship of known size.
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I'm having problems seeing the pages with those scans on them. Is there something wrong with the pages or is this another disfunction that is unique to me?
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I get a warm "server could be down or not responding" welcome, too. I hope things will get better by tomorrow. I definitely want to see the undersides of as many FC starships as possible! (Is there a word for this type of perversion?)
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starshipuality..... it's both a sexual and spritual perversion that seems common here.....
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According to the article, the Saber's shuttlebay is in front--in that notched-out section under the bridge. Don't ask me why so many are getting errors trying to load the pages. Maybe Fitz can copy and upload again.
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No, wait, they did open after all - except that the link to the Steamrunner underbelly was broken. Dang.
These pics would seem to prove that at least the Steamie has big enough openings in the bow for them to be shuttlebay doors. And indeed there don't seem to be any torpedo launchers. That settles it - this ship is a dedicated carrier of some sort.
Perhaps the Steamie flies in a nose-up attitude, so that the deflector has a better view forward and the impulse jets don't hit the pylons?
The Sabre could be much, much bigger than she at first seems. I think there are two features on the ventral side that could be torp tubes: halfway between the bow and the ventral phaser strip, there are those indentations, one ahead of and above the other. Those would be responsible for the rapid volley of torps the ship in FC final assault scene spits out of her lower bow. A separate launcher could possibly be installed on the dorsal aft end of the ship, the angular "module" up there, to account for the other FC firings of (somewhat redder?) torps to other angles.
Funny how the little squares on the Sabre hull are labeled as "escape hatches" instead of "escape pods"...
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If it's traveling to the southwest in the picture then it's definately an Oberth. If you zoom in you can make out the small nacelle "wings" and the big blimp it's dragging between its legs. The white dot in the lower feft of the ship is the rim of the saucer-section, reflecting light.
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