Looks very good, although the deflector dish looks like it is one, maybe two decks to far down.
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Aban: "Ahhhh. I think I see it now. At least I see where the dish is supposed to be. It's that curved notched line that I thought was a phaser strip there to the right of where the line pointing to the dish ends. To make it clearer, the line should be pointing to the curved line which is actually the upper part of the deflector housing."
No. The line points right to the deflector housing. What you thought was a phaser strip is most likely the ventral sensor array -- looks like the species found on the Galaxy class, even though it isn't specifically called out as such. Look at the schematic again, this time knowing that the forward face of the secondary hull is concave, not convex. The aft undercut of the secondary hull is much farther back.
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Well, this is what I'm seeing. The actual dish may well be way the hell back against the aft wall of the housing, but that slotted line is definitely not a phaser strip.
edit-- well, I had intended to post a comparison graphic, but I'm a complete dumbass and threw it away, before I posted it...
*sigh*
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The shaded part is the engineering hull. I thought the area encompassed by the oval to the right of the shaded area was part of the EH. My bad.
I get it.
Proceed with the discussion and I'll be quiet...
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WHERE did you get that schematic from!?! Those types of schematics are soo COOL! I'd love to see all the new ships like that... better than those wierd Encyc schems...
LOVE IT!
I wonder about the warpcore ejection 'hole' - does it mean that the warp core fires out the back - does that then mean it could be a horizontal warp core... or like the defiant a vertical warpcore - but doubled in on itself for space purposes...
I still think that the Sabre is a 'family' member with the Defiant... and that she was another of the "weapons" that Starfleet were months away from completing along with the Defiant...
Andrew
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Not necessarily, given the NCC (and *I* think it's chronological) and the apparent lack of "new weapons" that Shelby was talking about in "BoBW". No, I just think that the Sabre is the latest in a long list of light cruisers that we'd just not seen until now.
Mark
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A horizontal Warp core would be logical for a thin ship. And if gravity did have anything to do with the dispersal patterns of the warp coolants, couldn't it be solved easily with some stasis fields or something? Could the ejection hole be used to scale the ship, right? So we don't have to worry about it being the same width of a Galaxy saucer?
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That schematic was posted on page 2 along with all the other views. I just inverted the color.
That's the bottom view of the ship, so I guess I just assumed that the ejection hole was facing down. But, it's on a sloping face, so I suppose it could be facing aft. Check the aft schematic...
As for scaling, the escape pods appear to be the same as the Galaxy Class ones. Use them for scaling...
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The aft view shows the ejection hole as a narrow ellipse, so I guess the core fires more or less straight down...
Using the lifepods (or "escape hatches"!) or the windows for scaling, one gets a ship about the size of the Steamrunner main hull - in fact, one could superimpose the two hulls rather nicely. In side view, the ship would be similar to a Miranda in size, 250-270 meters long. This would make more sense than a 170m ship, if we are to assume that the two squares on the bow are shuttlebay doors - they would be the smallest shuttlebay doors of that type ever seen if the ship was just Defiant-sized.
One wouldn't have to give up the DS9 TM "light cruiser" designation even with a 250-270m ship. Of course, the Miranda should be a "light cruiser" then as well. A crew count of 40 is nonsense in any case - there are, what, 108 lifepods on the ship, and far more volume than in a Defiant even if the Sabre is just 170m long.
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I seriously doubt the ejection chute would be turning. A horizontal one would actually be better, the whole thing could lie sideways against the long side of the room, and you could reach every part of it, just by walking sideways!
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Anyone have good schematic drawings of the top sides of the Saber and Steamrunner? I couldn't get them out of the magazine without cutting out the pages.
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Look at page two of this thread. There's about 8 schematics posted.
Who said anything about the ejection chute turning? I just can't tell if it runs horizontally or vertically.
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Whoops. Sorry Galen. My bad :0) Also sorry that I can't help you with the top view. I may have something at home...
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