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"Instructed by history and reflection, Julian was persuaded that, if the diseases of the body may sometimes be cured by salutary violence, neither steel nor fire can eradicate the erroneous opinions of the mind."

-Edward Gibbons, The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire.

There's always T. S. Eliot: "They all go into the dark, into the vacant interstellar spaces..."

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"For people with resources, the right events happen. They may look like coincidences, but they arise out of necessity." --T�rk Hviid

Re: Re-structuring - methinks that there'll be a problem restructuring, with so many people. We're gonna have to break this up into smaller groups and get people to coordinate from there. I don't have time to do so, which make me saound a bit hypocritical, and I apologize for that. It doesn't mean that the projects will suddenly die, but will likely be slowed up some.

Mark

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"Why build one, when you can have two at twice the price?"

- Carl Sagan, "Contact"

Bernd:
Can you send me a copy of that Intrepid-class photo.

Peregrinus:
Nice motto - which we'll probably put to a vote anyways. Do you have a screenshot of the tactcal plot you are referring to?

Shik:
I know man, but we're dealing with a "kinder, gentler Federation..."

Ultra Magnus:
Any submissions are welcome, but I'm hoping this will be a recreational item for the team (in between nit-picking sessions).

Mark:
I agree. I believe Shik and Bernd are working out the details on this (feel free to ask me my opinion - if it matters - guys).

The logo is coming along pretty well. I like some of Bernd's suggestions and I must put my vote in for the slightly less authoritarian/hail-the-conquering-hero logo mindset. Just my two cents.

I have been looking over the plans a little more and though my official job is making 3D those tech-objects which David sets forth, I have a few little nitpicks to offer up. If anyone had already touched upon any these issues I apologize and feel free to move along.

Correct me if I am wrong (very easy for me). It does not appear that the chief security officer has an office as Tuvok does in the show (at least I haven't found it labeled as such yet). This office is little more than a redress of Chakotay's office (which as the XO's office, is represented in the plans) and thus would probably be on the same deck. I know it has not been decided which ship and when in relation to "Voyager canon" this project falls but this seems a little odd. Plus, some detail for you; I recently watched a Voy rerun: It showed the slow (non-warp) star movement outside Chakotay's office viewport. It indicates Chakotay's office is on the port side of the ship rather than starboard as the plans show for the XO's office.

Also in relation to those offices. The sets have entrance doors that are roughly perpendicular to the viewport and opposite the officer's desk. Maybe you could reflect this in the deck plans with a minor edit. The plans currently show the office to open up onto the corridor, doorway opposite the outer hull, but the set's actual configuration could be correctly reflected maybe by adding only a small room between the corridor and the office itself. The office set does seem a little more cramped than they are in these plans.

The Captains quarters. Don't know if it is even important, but the set for Janeway's quarters has the exact opposite layout to the layout offered in the deck plans. Maybe no big deal.

The pilot episode showed that the crew's mess on deck two (voyager's version of Ten-forward) had replicators facing the fore of the ship, opposite the forward viewports. There was no apparent access to any room beyond it until it was decided that cooking food would be a necessity. The captain actually had her own little private dining room which Neelix usurped to create his leola root cuisine kitchen. The layout in the deck plans show access to this area from the lounge area only, but the Captain entered it from the outer corridor in the episode "Phage". (she also referred to it as "cabin 125 alpha, deck 2" and "the captain's private dining room" as labeled in the ship's directory) Neelix walked in on the captain exploring for coffee by that same doorway in the very next episode "The Cloud". Also on this deck throughout the first season, there was a row of exterior viewports along part of this deck's corridor, with a turbo lift at the aftward end. The only place this setup would work is where you have VIP quarters located (though I always thought this was a poor allocation of exterior viewports). Maybe this is why they are ignored in the present layout you have. If so please ignore this minor point.

This is lengthier than I had planned so I will shut up for a while and breathe.

I will try to have some 3D updates later this weekend if all goes well.

Don't Sisko and Jake look through one at the very start of "Emmissary, DS9"

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"By Golly Jim, I'm begining to think I can cure a rainy day"

DECK 01

1 MAIN BRIDGE

1 CAPTAIN�S READY ROOM

1 MAIN CONFERENCE ROOM

1 DAMAGE CONTROL

1 BATTERY ROOM

2 LIFEPOD

DECK 02

1 CAPTAIN�S DINING ROOM (REFUGE 1)

3 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS - FUTURE EXPANSION (FEX)

1 DAMAGE CONTROL

4 OFFICES (EXEC, COUNSELLOR, QUARTERMASTER)

2 VIP QUARTERS

1 AFT NAVIGATION SENSOR SUITE

1 AFT SPACEDOCK ACCESSWAY

1 BATTERY ROOM

4 LIFEPOD

DECK 03

1 CAPTAIN�S QUARTERS

4 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS (FEX)

6 SENIOR OFFICER�S QUARTERS

1 DAMAGE CONTROL

1 MAIN COMPUTER BAY - UPPER

2 TORPEDO LAUNCHER BAY - UPPER

2 BATTERY ROOM

DECK 04

18 OFFICER�S QUARTERS

6 ENLISTED QUARTERS

2 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS (FEX)

1 FORWARD NAVIGATION SENSOR SUITE - UPPER

2 DAMAGE CONTROL - DECK 3

2 AEROPONICS / HYDROPONICS BAY

1 MAIN COMPUTER BAY -MID

2 TORPEDO LAUNCHER BAY - MAIN

2 PERSONNEL TRANSPORTER ROOMS

2 FIELD GENERATOR COMPLEX (DEFLECTOR SCREEN / STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY / INERTIAL DAMPING)

4 BATTERY ROOM

DECK 05

16 OFFICER�S QUARTERS

16 ENLISTED QUARTERS

4 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS (FEX)

2 HOLODECK (1 & 2) - UPPER

1 FORWARD NAVIGATION SENSOR SUITE - LOWER

2 DAMAGE CONTROL

4 CARGO BAY

2 AUXILLIARY FUSION REACTOR /

TRANSPORTER BUFFER BAY

2 ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING BAY

1 MAIN COMPUTER BAY -LOWER

1 BIOSCIENCES LAB

1 DOCTOR�S OFFICE

1 SICKBAY

1 MORGUE

2 TORPEDO & PROBE MAGAZINE

2 TORPEDO WARHEAD LOCKER

DECK 06

1 PRIMARY HULL DEFLECTOR

22 OFFICER�S QUARTERS

60 ENLISTED QUARTERS

2 HOLODECK (1 & 2) - LOWER

4 DAMAGE CONTROL

2 CARGO HOLD

1 GYMNASIUM COMPLEX - EXERCISE EQUIPMENT

1 GYMNASIUM COMPLEX - JACUZZI /SPA

2 GYMNASIUM COMPLEX - SPORT COURT

1 GYMNASIUM COMPLEX - SPECTATOR GALLERY

9 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS - (FEX)

6 LIFEPOD

DECK 07

2 SENIOR OFFICER�S QUARTERS

22 OFFICER�S QUARTERS

52 ENLISTED QUARTERS

2 SCIENCE LAB

4 CARGO BAY - UPPER

4 MANEUVERING THRUSTER & FUELING SYSTEM - UPPER

1 DEUTERIUM TANKAGE - UPPER

2 CRYONIC COOLING SYSTEM - (DEUTERIUM TANKAGE)

2 THRUSTERS & SUPPORT SYSTEMS BAY

2 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

12 LIFEPOD

DECK 08

3 AIRLOCK & DOCKING PORT

3 AIRLOCK SYSTEMS & GAS STORAGE

6 FIELD GENERATOR COMPLEX (DEFLECTOR SCREEN / STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY / INERTIAL DAMPING)

4 MANEUVERING THRUSTER & FUELING SYSTEM - LOWER

2 CARGO HOLD

4 CARGO BAY - LOWER

2 WATER TANKAGE

2 SUBSPACE ANTENNA COMPARTMENT

2 ANTIGRAV LANDING GENERATOR (ALG) BAY

1 EMERGENCY BRIDGE

2 REPLICATOR HEAD SYSTEMS (INORGANIC) BAY

2 DAMAGE CONTROL LOCKER

1 DEUTERIUM TANKAGE - LOWER

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (DEUTERIUM INJECTOR)

16 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

DECK 09

1 FORWARD LOWER OBSERVATION LOUNGE

2 TRANSPORTER BUFFER BAY

1 CAPTAIN�S GIG PARKING BAY

2 GENERAL ENGINEERING COMPARTMENTS

2 GIG FUELING TANKAGE

2 CARGO EXTERNAL HATCH ACCESS BAY

2 CARGO CONVEYOR HATCH ACCESS BAY

2 TORPEDO LAUNCHER BAY - UPPER

2 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

6 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS - FUTURE EXPANSION (FEX)

1 ENGINEERING WORKSHOP - TURBOLIFT MAINTENANCE

2 ENGINEERING WORKSHOP - DIAGNOSTICS

2 ENGINEERING WORKSHOP - MAINTENANCE

1 SECURITY - STAGING & LOCKERS

1 SECURITY - BRIG

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (AUXILLIARY SYSTEMS & POWER)

3 HANGAR BAY - UPPER

1 LANDING BAY - UPPER

DECK 10

1 REPLICATOR HEAD SYSTEMS (ORGANIC)

2 TORPEDO LAUNCHER BAY - MIAIN

2 ENGINEERING - SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT

2 ENGINEERING - LIQUID WASTE MANAGEMENT

3 FIELD GENERATOR COMPLEX (DEFLECTOR SCREEN / STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY / INERTIAL DAMPING)

2 ENLISTED LOUNGE (REFUGE 2 & 3 )

1 SPARE WARP CORE - UPPER

1 SECONDARY COMPUTER BAY -UPPER

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (PROPULSION) - UPPER

3 HANGAR BAY - LOWER

1 LANDING BAY - LOWER

1 AFT AIRLOCK / AIRLOCK SYSTEMS & GAS STORAGE

1 HANGAR DOOR FORCE-FIELD GENERATOR (HDFFG)

1 FLIGHT CONTROL

DECK 11

2 SENSOR BAY

1 MAIN DEFLECTOR GENERATOR - UPPER

2 GENERAL ENGINEERING COMPARTMENT

2 TORPEDO & PROBE MAGAZINE

2 TORPEDO WARHEAD LOCKER

1 SPARE WARP CORE - MID

1 SECONDARY COMPUTER BAY -MID

1 CARGO BAY - UPPER

2 ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING BAY

1 UNASSIGNED COMPARTMENTS - (FEX)

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (PROPULSION) - LOWER

1 LARGE ASSEMBLY FABRICATION & REPLICATION

1 SHUTTLE DIAGNOSTICS STORAGE BAY

1 HANGAR BAY

1 HANGAR MAINTENANCE BAY

2 SHUTTLE FUEL TANKAGE

1 SHUTTLE PILOT LOCKER ROOM

1 SHUTTLE SPARE PARTS BAY

1 AFT OBSERVATION LOUNGE (SHUTTLE PILOT READY ROOM)

STARBOARD NACELLE & SUPPORT

1 BUSSARD IONIZING BEAM EMITTER BAY

1 BUSSARD MAGNETIC FIELD GENERATOR/COLLECTOR BAY

1 CONTINUOUS CYCLE FRACTIONATOR & DEUTERIUM CHILLER BAY

1 WARP COIL & PLASMA INJECTOR BAY

1 FIELD GENERATOR COMPLEX (DEFLECTOR SCREEN / STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY / INERTIAL DAMPING)

1 NACELLE SUPPORT SWIVEL MOTOR BAY

1 DEUTERIUM TANKAGE

1 FUSION GENERATOR & IMPULSE EXHAUST NOZZLE BAY

1 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

1 BUSSARD IONIZING BEAM EMITTER BAY

PORT NACELLE & SUPPORT

1 BUSSARD IONIZING BEAM EMITTER BAY

1 BUSSARD MAGNETIC FIELD GENERATOR/COLLECTOR BAY

1 CONTINUOUS CYCLE FRACTIONATOR & DEUTERIUM CHILLER BAY

1 WARP COIL & PLASMA INJECTOR BAY

1 FIELD GENERATOR COMPLEX (DEFLECTOR SCREEN / STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY / INERTIAL DAMPING)

1 NACELLE SUPPORT SWIVEL MOTOR BAY

1 DEUTERIUM TANKAGE

1 FUSION GENERATOR & IMPULSE EXHAUST NOZZLE BAY

1 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

1 BUSSARD IONIZING BEAM EMITTER BAY

DECK 12

1 MAIN DEFLECTOR GENERATOR - MAIN

2 SENSOR BAY

1 SPARE WARP CORE - MID

2 AEROPONICS / HYDROPONICS BAY

1 SECONDARY COMPUTER BAY -LOWER

1 CARGO BAY - LOWER

2 PERSONNEL TRANSPORTER ROOMS

2 CARGO HOLD

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (ENVIRONMENT)

DECK 13

2 SENSOR BAY

1 BATTERY COMPARTMENT

6 OFFICER�S QUARTERS

2 TRANSPORTER BUFFER BAY

1 SPARE WARP CORE - MID

8 SCIENCE LABS

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (ANTIMATTER INJECTOR)

4 LIFEPOD

DECK 14

1 SENSOR BAY

2 DAMAGE CONTROL

1 SPARE WARP CORE - MID

1 ANTIMATTER GENERATOR BAY - UPPER

1 ANTI-DEUTERIUM POD STORAGE BAY - UPPER

1 ENGINEERING - MAIN (ANTI-DEUTERIUM INJECTOR COMPLEX)

1 WARP CORE JETTISON HATCH

10 LIFEPOD

DECK 15

2 PLASMA RELAY CONTROL

1 SPARE WARP CORE - LOWER

1 ANTIMATTER GENERATOR BAY - LOWER

1 ANTI-DEUTERIUM LOADING PORT

1 AUXILLIARY WARP CORE BAY ACCESS HATCH

1 ANTI-DEUTERIUM POD STORAGE BAY - LOWER

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"By Golly Jim, I'm begining to think I can cure a rainy day"

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Not even a god can deny that I have squared the circle of a static Earth and cubed the Earth sphere by rotating it once to a dynamic Time or Life Cube.
--
Gene Ray
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Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" Or don't. You know, whatever.

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"By Golly Jim, I'm begining to think I can cure a rainy day"