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I read somewhere in this thread, that the Norway didn�t have phaser strips... But I have a small pic where this ship appears firing her phasers. I believe the phaser strips are in the underside of the main hull, but I can be wrong. Anyway, never found a good blueprint of this ship, only those green/brown schematics and a small kit (in which is possible see phaser strips in the underside of the main hull). If somebody has good blueprints, I would like to see them, cause I�m interested in built a CGI model...
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The problem is, even if the Norway did have phaser strips, it was shown firing from the recess in the fore of its 'saucer,' indicating it was some type of phaser cannon there that used a different delivery than the common phaser strip system. Knowing 24th century design, that area would probably best be a deflector or torpedo bay, but possibly the animators who did the VFX for the FC film didnt know that and made it a phaser instead ( or even worse, the CGI modeller didnt know of the design standards and actually intended that to be the model's phaser cannon ).. not that its a huge problem, its just that the Norway doesnt jibe with other Starfleet ships for unknown reasons.
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i know its a pretty pathetic excuse for ships like the Saber and Steamrunner, but maybe these classes were somewhat 'classified' during the TNG era, and so would not have been mentioned. If they are warships (or at least we consider them to be) then perhaps they werent mentioned becoz Starfleet does not have warships . either that or they were on deep space missions and since none of them were named enterprise the 'documentary crew' [ie. the TV show that we have come to be so familiar with] never followed them around.
perhaps a lil too cynical, but it is 0240 hours my time.
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Yeah, but I would still have to argue against it being a transport. That is because we do know Starfleet has alot of ship classes that weren't seen in the battle, such as the Chimera, Bradbury, Freedom, etc ships. Some of those designs were at Wolf 359 cause they were the ships scattered around the Federation core that could be scrambled in time for the battle. But Starfleet was more prepared for the second Borg assault, meeting the borg with a bunch of ships in the distant Typhon Sector. I imagine that the reason why we only saw those, what, 5 or 6 ship classes at Earth in FC was cause by that time in battle those ships were the only ones fast and powerful enough to keep up with the cube all the way to Earth, firing all the way. Come to think of it, I guess the Norway could be some kind of long range fast transport then...but then again, from the CGI it looks like there's some kind of large sensor array on top, so I guess I'll keep with the multi-envionment explorer theory.
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For me, cause the design, the Norway appears to be an interceptor or patrol ship. I know that it isn�t a commom trek concept, but I think those tasks combine with the Norway.
quote:(You can say what you want, but I concider Bridge Commander canon. Besides the game, the information given in the manual is better than everything I have seen, well-researched and can stand the Encyclopedia in any way. Furthermore, it gives us some more starship names. )
"Canon" means it's accepted by all; while I don't have any problem with the information given therein (I don't play computer games), I'm not going to even afford it the same status as the Encyclopaedias, that is, semi-canon until something is either confirmed or contradicted onscreen.
And the design. . . well, the Encyclopaedia drawing sucked (I should know, I used it as the basis for the diagram I've done for UP3) and the single existing view of the CGI model looked awful. There's the beginnings of a good design here, and it would have been nice if they'd taken the time to develop it.
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BTW, i drew up a slightly better wireframe.. here it is superimposed over the encyclopedia version.. i think it looks pretty spiffy like that. reuse on pages, only if you provide a link to mine: captainmike.org
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That ship looks as nice as always, but it's not a Norway. Like I said, not one of Drexlers (or whoever did them) best images; the whole bussard-collector/forward-nacelles-thing is wrong, the bridge-module is anything but Norway, the saucer shape is wrong, even the wings need some update.
Maybe we should call that version a 'variant', like the Centaur from the DS9TM.
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I'm looking forward to your pic Amasoff... I never really noticed any difference between the Encyclopaedia schem and that wierd CGI model. I guess I wasn't really looking for any reason in particular - and you are for your pic... so thanks for the info!
If DD did these pics for the Encyc... wouldn't he have had access/pics of the models sent to him? Maybe he still has them - like on his computer!?!
Undersides of the Steamrunner and Sabre would be nice but all views of the Noraway would be terriffic! Maybe he could send them to (who did the leg work last time?) and just specify that they didn't come from him. AND re the nebula, it wouldn't be interfering with Mojo's work - because he never got the ILM model. DD must have seen it though to do the top view of the schematic.
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I wouldn't be Captain Ammhursopf if I can't do an accurate update of an existing schematic.
Seriously, that seems to be a really good idea. Since the Norway misteriously disappeared after FC, any picture of it would be welcome. I really want to see whats inside the hole in the nose section. We saw a phaser beam coming out of it, but many CGI-models place the main deflector in there.
And if we ask Drexler if he can mail us his Norway-images this time, maybe we should ask for access to his whole harddrive. That would make things a lot easier.
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike:
Direct comparison cleaned-up Drexler-NC vs. Amasov's NC:
(I have the larger one... )
Beta 0.5, meaning the thing will be updated and gets a nice top view in time (meaning probably this weekend or next week). And I just spotted I forgot a yellow marking right in front of the Starfleet-Insignia.
Oh, and by the way, maybe you noticed she didn't get a name yet. I wasn't able to pick one. What do you think? Suggestions?
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U.S.S. Norway NCC-1603-D
just kidding..
most RPG references online have fans giving the U.S.S. Norway either NCC-62341 (or having earlier been NX-62341), or NX-63712 being the second most common. Many of those sites also list a Norway-class Reliant, most at NCC-63421..
BTW I'd love to see the ship labeled either 'Roderick' with a 6xxxx registry or 'Bozeman' at either NCC-1941-A or with a 6xxxx registry, since thats the impression i got from the novel 'Ship of the Line' for that ships class (the Roderick was renamed Bozeman in honor of Morgan Bateson taking command of it)
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Bozeman. Mmmhhh. Sounds good. But the Soyuz was next on my list, and since I put them all into the same folder, this could cause some confusion (I have at least 3 different versions of each picture, and if I apply a confusing name like this, I am one step closer to chaos. )
But if there are no other good suggestions, I might take Roderick.
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