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Starfleet Academy/Checkov's Lost Missions addon - info available Starfleet Command - info available ST: Klingon Academy - info available SFC 2: Empires at War - info needed SFC: Orion Pirates - info needed
Birth of the Federation - info available
TNG Interactive TM - info available Starship Creator - info available Starship Creator Warp 2 - info available Star Trek: Borg - info needed DS9: The Fallen - info available DS9: Dominion Wars - info available *nearly done*
ST: Hidden Evil - info available VOY: Elite Force/Expansion pack addon - info available ST: Armada - info available
DS9: Harbinger - info needed
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...hehe, I love teasing titles.
I want to update my shiplist. The music's on, cheese pizza to the right, coke to the left, then let's begin.
The update will be the following: I plan to integrate the ships from Computer games. I know this is an area with lots of land mines and occasional canon airstrikes, but somehow I have the feeling that these are at least *somehow canon*. The Paramount quality controls, the original actors, the support by behind-the-scenes-people (like Okuda for example) and some more thing give it this "it's not canon, but it's not not canon either"-feeling. I'll make notes for those ships, of course, or change the chart's color or something like that.
What I need is some input. Allthough I have nost of the games, maybe someone finds something else.
I'll start the list with '25th anniversary', I'll ignore all the other programs that came before because this one was the first one to earn great attention and had the features I listed above.
If I forgot anything, tell me. I have no idea if there are any ST-games outside the PC (Playstation for example). The only game I know is Invasion, if anyone has some info on that game, tell me.
I can tell if there are any problems with the games I check. For the games I do not have, tell me if they are available as freeware and I can download them, or just tell me what ships/classes/registries you encountered while playing it.
I'll keep you up to date with the project. And thanks for any help you can offer.
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Will this be Federation ships only, or aliens as well?
It's been a long time since I played "25th Anniversary," but I can recall a few things about the ships.
-- USS Republic, NCC-1371, Constitution Class. Severely damaged by an Elasi Pirate attack (as in many chunks blown out of the saucer). The captain of the ship was named, but I don't recall what it was.
-- USS Masada, NCC-XXXXXX [yes, a SIX DIGIT registry!], Ptolemy-class (class not identified in game, IIRC). This ship was captured by Elasi Pirates.
I'm not positive, but I believe that there was a second Constitution-class starship shown at the very beginning of the game. It might've been the Republic, but it could also have been a different ship.
A Federation research station was also shown in one of the missions, but I don't remember that name either.
If you REALLY need the info, I might be able to dig out the CD that the game is archived on and see if it'll run properly on my ten-years-newer OS. But that may take a while.
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Does the Sega Genesis Star Trek: TNG Echoes from the Past count? Yes, they're console games but if you're including the TNG TM and Starship Creator... Plus Andy Probert did work on it.
Anyway, there's a Federation freighter called the S.S. Nakatomi. However, a registry with an NCC was given, and the crew wore Starfleet uniforms, so it's probably the same deal as with the Tsiolkovsky. IIRC, the registry was a four digit number like NCC-4721 or 4271... I'll have to pull out my old ship lists out of the archive to be sure. There are also three Ournal-class spacedocks... again I don't have the names or planets they orbit off the top of my head but I'm sure they're written down somewhere.
The DS9 SNES/Genesis game, Crossroads of Time, features yet another nameless runabout piloted by Kira (the registry on the cover may or may not correspond to it), and the U.S.S. Saratoga NCC-31911. There may have been a few generic ships shown destroyed in the Wolf 359 cutscenes, but I'm not sure. They definitely weren't named or pointed out, though.
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quote:Will this be Federation ships only, or aliens as well?
Only Federation ships. If I wanted to include aliens, I would have to include new alien races, too, and that would be too much. And since my original shiplist is Federation only...
quote:It's been a long time since I played "25th Anniversary," but I can recall a few things about the ships.
-- USS Republic, NCC-1371, Constitution Class. Severely damaged by an Elasi Pirate attack (as in many chunks blown out of the saucer). The captain of the ship was named, but I don't recall what it was.
-- USS Masada, NCC-XXXXXX [yes, a SIX DIGIT registry!], Ptolemy-class (class not identified in game, IIRC). This ship was captured by Elasi Pirates.
I'm not positive, but I believe that there was a second Constitution-class starship shown at the very beginning of the game. It might've been the Republic, but it could also have been a different ship.
Wasn't there a USS St. Louis, too?
quote:A Federation research station was also shown in one of the missions, but I don't remember that name either.
Not that important, just ships.
quote:If you REALLY need the info, I might be able to dig out the CD that the game is archived on and see if it'll run properly on my ten-years-newer OS. But that may take a while.
That would be fantastic, allthough you should step back a few meters before running it, it may cause your computer to explode.
quote:Does the Sega Genesis Star Trek: TNG Echoes from the Past count? Yes, they're console games but if you're including the TNG TM and Starship Creator... Plus Andy Probert did work on it.
Sure, why not. There are several games I could have included (like all the 80's Simon&Schuster games for example) but I thought there should be a point where we start. I guess no one ever played those old text-adventures, some of them weren't even done by companies. Basically that's the reason I started with the first real successful Trek game, 25th Anniversary.
quote:Anyway, there's a Federation freighter called the S.S. Nakatomi. However, a registry with an NCC was given, and the crew wore Starfleet uniforms, so it's probably the same deal as with the Tsiolkovsky. IIRC, the registry was a four digit number like NCC-4721 or 4271... I'll have to pull out my old ship lists out of the archive to be sure. There are also three Ournal-class spacedocks... again I don't have the names or planets they orbit off the top of my head but I'm sure they're written down somewhere.
The DS9 SNES/Genesis game, Crossroads of Time, features yet another nameless runabout piloted by Kira (the registry on the cover may or may not correspond to it), and the U.S.S. Saratoga NCC-31911. There may have been a few generic ships shown destroyed in the Wolf 359 cutscenes, but I'm not sure. They definitely weren't named or pointed out, though.
I once found the homepage of one of the programmers of that game. He had a small chapter about the game and what he would have changed. He also mentioned Wolf and how his concept was shortened. (The Runabout's registry from the cover was NCC-1701-D or something, right? ). I can remember laucghing my ass off when I saw that in a shop ages ago.
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Uh, the programmer...and wasn't it lead designer, in fact? is quite likely reading your post right this very moment.
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: I once found the homepage of one of the programmers of that game. He had a small chapter about the game and what he would have changed. He also mentioned Wolf and how his concept was shortened. (The Runabout's registry from the cover was NCC-1701-D or something, right? ). I can remember laucghing my ass off when I saw that in a shop ages ago.
Yeah, it would've been nice to see those changes... would've made a better game... but I enjoyed it nonetheless. And that's coming from someone who isn't big on DS9 at all.
Anyway, I think I'll try and dig this stuff up. It'll bother me otherwise. The runabout did have a weird registry now that you mention it... stupid Playmates...
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: I want to update my shiplist...I plan to integrate the ships from Computer games...If I forgot anything, tell me. I have no idea if there are any ST-games outside the PC (Playstation for example).
Well, in the Sega Genesis/SNES DS9: Crossroads of Time (1995) there were several Federation starships that appeared in the intro sequence to the Wolf 359 flashback level. One was the Saratoga (obviously), but three other ships appeared.
The Kadocsa (Hungarian, and pronounced "Ka-do-cha") was named for the Lead programmer, Mr. Kadocsa Tassonyi. I don't recall why I assigned the NCC as 1994-C, but it must have had something to do with the year when I came up with the ship, or something related to its namesake.
The McQuarrie was named for Ralph McQuarrie, and based on his concept paintings for the aborted Planet of Titans Trek film. I believe I assigned it NCC-1948 because it was a ship design I figured would land between the 1800s of the Mirandas and the Excelsior's 2000, being as the ship design was for a post-TOS movie.
The third ship was another McQuarrie. I never named it.
The ships designations were never shown in the game, but that's what they're labeled on all the documentation I have on it.
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USS Alexander A Constitution-class vessel under the command of Captain Lucas Rayner. Commissioned at stardate 5961.1. Current missions are classified.
USS Cenurix Ulysses Montaya served aboard this ship.
USS Demeter A Federation science vessel under the command of Commander John Gellman. The ship is named after the Greed godess of agriculture. The Demeter is currently at Balkos III for scientific research.
USS Galahad This ship was commaned by Captain Joshua Mulrone.
USS Gallant This ship was commanded by Captain Chris Richards
USS Intrepid Tyler Garth served aboard this ship after graduation from Starfleet Academy.
USS Jersey Ulysses Montaya served aboard this ship.
USS Kazembe This ship was commanded by Captain L. T. Stone.
USS Lexington Tyler Garth served aboard this ship for a long time.
USS Maine This ship was commanded by Captain Jose Mendez.
USS Masada A Federation tug with the registry NCC-293391 under the command of Lt. Kevin Keeler. The ship has a crew of 17 and the computer-code is 293391-197736-3829.
USS Meridian This ship was commanded by Captain Joshua Royal
USS Olympus Mons A Constitution-class vessel under the command of Captain Garth Tyler. The Olympus Mons is currently stationed at Omega Curvus. Her mission is to defend the Sigma III outpost against the Elasi and to escort the famous poet Virchan on her tour to Symphony Alpha. The Olympus Mons was named after the flag ship of the Martian colonists.
USS Oxnard Jose Tyler served aboard the Oxnard as navigator.
USS Regulus Ulysses Montaya served aboard this ship.
USS Republic A Constitution-class vessel, registry NCC-1373, under the command of Captain Richard Patterson. Current non-classified assignments: Transport of an investigating committee to Vardaine, sensor scans of the remains of the Gadani II supernova.
USS Stalwart Chris Richards and James T. Kirk served aboard this ship.
USS Typhoon Lucas Rayner served aboard this ship for a long time.
USS Zimbabwe A Constitution-class vessel under the command of Captain Ulysses Montaya. Commissioned at stardate 5621.3. Current non-classified assignments: Transport of diplomats between Babel and Vulcan, search for missing ships in the Delphi sector.
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Memories of a time long ago...
Thanks for the link, Millenium, thanks for the info, Mr.'Programmer'. That's the sort of stuff that makes my life a bit easier. (The McQuarrie - was it based on the McQuarries Star Destroyer concepts for Phase 2? I have seen some images of a 'McQuarrie-class', and it was in fact one of those concepts. Just curious if you had the same idea at that time. )
Spike, that's fantastic. Think I have to add a third and fourth smilie...
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: Memories of a time long ago...
Thanks for the link, Millenium, thanks for the info, Mr.'Programmer'. That's the sort of stuff that makes my life a bit easier. (The McQuarrie - was it based on the McQuarries Star Destroyer concepts for Phase 2? I have seen some images of a 'McQuarrie-class', and it was in fact one of those concepts. Just curious if you had the same idea at that time. )
Yeah, it's based on one of the conceptual Enterprise designs done for Phase 2. Specifically, it's the one with the really large "star destroyer" body. The study model for same appears in The Art of Star Trek (with the nacelles turned around), and I think may be the ship in SpaceDock in ST3 (hiding behind the hub arm to screen left as the Enterprise docks).
I planned to also use the other study model (the one with the bigger nacelles and smaller secondary hull) as the basis for another ship in the battle, which would have been called the U.S.S. Titan (after the film it was designed for). This also appeared in a McQuarrie Painting.
For the record, the unnamed runabout in the game (not the box art) was the Rio Grande.
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Here's a link, a really nice image of the Star Destroyer-McQuarrie-class. You see what I mean ?
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The main ship from away team is the USS Incursion NX-74808. In the game it was listed as a modified defiant class but when you look at it from the outside and the level on its decks you realize that it is far too big to be one. So in my shiplist I list it as the prototype for the Incursion class, due to the NX- registry. also featured in the game is an Akira class, the Uss Leyte Gulf NCC-71427.
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iam2xtreme, thanks for the registries of the ships.(I don't have savegames, this means I would have had to play the whole game to find out. )
One question though; In one of the later missions, you encounter a Nebula-class ship that has been assimilated by the Borg. Do you remember if it was the Monitor?
OK people, here's a little teaser, just the chart, including 3 games (Generations, Bridge Commander und Crossroads of Time) with description of each ship. This is a rough beta version, just to let you see how the finished thing will look like. I'm currently working on a way to find out which files contain ship-names and shuch things for different games like Starfleet Command or BotF. Anyway, here it is: this evil little thing took the whole night to finish
Some call me a 'workaholic', I hate holidays. Maybe that's the reason I do this. Next on my to-do-list are Judgement Rites (see Spike's post) and then Armada 2.
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: Here's a link, a really nice image of the Star Destroyer-McQuarrie-class. You see what I mean ?
Funny. That looks nothing much like the Phase 2 designs McQuarrie painted. Only the secondary hull shape is vaguely reminiscent of it.
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Hmm... It's been a while, but I think the only Federation ship in "A Final Unity" was the Ent-D, and I don't recall any ship in ST:Klingon other than a BoP.
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