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And that's why my forum has twice as many posts as yours. Ha!
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Yes I don't see any problems with Mirandas and Excelsiors being still around, but it's the fact that the presence of these particular ships of antiquity doesn't seem to be substantiated and reinforced by the appearances of other older ships. Yes we've heard about the Hokulea's, Renaissances, Apollos, etc, as well as more recent fleet additions such as Korolev and Rigel.
I think the main complaint here is that, as yet, we haven't seen onscreen appearances from these other classes of ship, because the main resource TPTB have are the Mirandas and Excelsiors..
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Did I already say that the only thing I would have changed would have been to commission a New Orleans and an Ambassador and maybe even a Springfield (which is growing on me) CG model, to use in addition to the Excelsiors and the Mirandas? Unlike the unseen classes, these are already designed and thus, I naively imagine, would be easier to create.
I'd like to see a USS Crazy Horse-type as well, but I do not dare try to spell out its class because I will embarass myself.
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The Crazy Horse was an Excelsior. You're probably thinking of the Encyclopedia-1's premature classification of it as a Cheyenne.
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Well I've built meshes of all of the obscure, barely seen Wolf 359 ships, and I can say it didn't cause me to sweat much. So other than whatever the economic situation was between TPTB and ILM, you'd have thought there'd be no problem at all building CGI versions of these models. I also know for a fact that mine were a heck of lot better, and more detailed than the First Contact ships (excluding the Akira, which was a superb model).
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Actually, I was talking about real-world resources. Putting Sternbach or whoever on designing a Starfleet vessel
Then get shuttle man on it, after designing all the new shuttles in Insurrection, Voyager, and even that weird-ass one for the Defiant, whomever he is, he must be dying to design something other than shuttles. God knows the "NX-01" didn't take up much time to design......or the Klingon battlecruiser that showed up in both DS9 AND Enterprise
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Whoever said that the Defiant was CGI in FC was wrong. This quote is taken from the sketchbook by John Eaves: "THE MODEL OF THE DEFIANT, SHOWING DAMAGE INCURRED DURING THE BATTLE. THE "DAMAGE" WAS ALL CGI. BY ALEX JAEGER". That is the caption to a dorsal image of the Defiant. So it was the Defiant model used and the damage was computer generated, to avoid costs and hassle of having to create the damage then repair it on the actual model.
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I read that, but I was curious...how on earth does that work? Wouldn't they have to model a CGI Defiant anyway, and have it match exactly the movement of the physical Defiant model in order that the damage stays consistent with the position of the ship?
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It is this image I always remember when I hear the CGI/model question of FC. Look at the damage next to the nose. CGI.
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Yes, but...I'm still not clear how you can put CGI damage on a physical model that's ducking and diving all over the place without having to, basically, use a full CGI model as well in order to get the placement right.
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