Ok, let�s talk. Valdore - BoP anyone? At least it looks like one from this angle
Argo, cool or totally unnecessary?
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The *shuttle* Argo is cool. It even looks like it could work (!).
Yet another spacedock frame. At least this makes a bit more sense, since the Sovereign probably wouldn't fit in the other ones because of it's length. I think.
I don't know about that Valdore thing. It looks a wee bit too much like a "Dominion BoP".
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Dominion "BoP"? I thought it looked just like a klingon BoP, remember the shot from one of the movies, I forget which. It was just this angle, and it looks surprisingly similar.
As for the Argo, yeah, sure, it looks quite nice, but I would so much have prefered the sfx-guys to focus their budget on new Federation starships instead.
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Valdore = BoP to some degree, which isn't a bad thing as long as we accept that Klingons and Romulans share ship design preferences. What are those big wings for, though? This ship can't be atmospheric-capable. A curving wing sounds like a silly way to mount a nacelle, especially if the wing is so broad.
Argo is stooopid but necessary, if we assume that the only other available shuttle type is the Insurrection one. That shuttle didn't have a big enough door to be practical for personnel transport, let alone the moving of even small equipment. Worse, though, Argo is butt-ugly.
No impulse glow whatsoever in the rear view of the Argo. An odd omission.
I fully understand that Earth orbit could be littered with dockyards and no two would be within visual range of each other... But it would still have been nice to see several starships being processed and not just the E-E.
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Did you notice the first shot of the Scimitar decloaking over Romulus? The ship looked nothing like in the first trailer (basically a Dominion cruiser there). This time it looks much wider, and the wings are relatively short.
Besides that, I think the Valdore(s) aren't as big as we thought.
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The Valdore is the one I thought was a Vor`cha... it's too blurry now, but on TV it looked like it had a forked nose.
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Actually... none of the Enterprise's saucer is ripped up in that picture. The dark wedges are pieces of the hull of the other ship being pushed up by the Enterprise. However, I would imagine that the Ent. sustains a fair amount of damage from this manuever.
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What was the book Picard rammed a Warbird in??? I know, I know, a book, bu they seem to be using that here.....
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Yes, it was 'Federation'... The book suggests that by turning the SIF up to maximum, the hull takes on the rigidity of a neutron-star, so it can pretty much smash through anything with little damage.
Totally non-canon and implausible, of course.
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*shrug* The order to ram the Borg (or rather, to prepare to ram) was given in both BOBW and ST8, and we also saw Dominion ships ramming Klingon ships, so its not exactly an unprecedented tactic.
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