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Janeway also rammed the Krenim timeship, but then again, Voyager was beat to hell at that point and probably didn't have much of an SIF left. Thus the primary hull crumpled like a new car.
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The most stupid canon example of ramming would have to be in "Caretaker". I really don't think that piss-ant Maquis raider, with shields down (since they transported Chakotay out), should have done so much damage to the Kazon carrier.
As for the Valdore, I'm honestly sick of the complaints. It doesn't look any more like a Klingon ship than the Klingon BoP looks like a Romulan ship. It's pretty obvious the Romulans and Klingons have similar ship designs, so get over it, people.
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How to make the Valdore varient of the D'Deridex:
1. Remove the bottom section of the "wing", along with the second interconnecting spar and the aft vertical connection.
2. Refit the "head" with the new configuration.
3. Install new nacelles and weapons systerms.
This makes the "new" warbird roughly the same length and width as the original, roughly 2x the length of a Galaxy class, and about the same in height (roughly 2x). A Galaxy class is 42 decks. At roughly 2x height (maybe a bit more), from the bottom of the "beak" to the top of whatever stuff has been added on top of the "wing" it isn't too much of a stretch as being 115 decks.
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Why do I have the feeling that this movie was made to either continue the TNG movies or kill it?
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Uh, because, rhetoric aside, those are the only two possibilities? Either there will be another film or there won't.
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Okay. My first impression of the Valdore was:
1) It's neither original nor immediately recognizable as Romulan.
2) It's ridiculously thin for its enormous wingspan.
But regarding the common Klingon-Romulan design lineage, couldn't this be exactly the silly �ber-BoP we have seen in "The Defector"?
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Note that by this time, Starfleet seems to have gotten the knack of beaming through their own shields, or shields friendly vessels. Caretaker is one example of this - they beam to and from the array without any dialogue to explain why, and numerous times during the series they beam to and from unshielded or friendly targets.
quote:Originally posted by Bernd: Okay. My first impression of the Valdore was:
1) It's neither original nor immediately recognizable as Romulan.
I agree that the design's not that original but it is distinctly Romulan IMO. If anything, it looks more Romulan than anything else.
quote:2) It's ridiculously thin for its enormous wingspan.
I agree. The Valdore would have to have one hell of a SIF.
quote:But regarding the common Klingon-Romulan design lineage, couldn't this be exactly the silly �ber-BoP we have seen in "The Defector"?
I'm not sure how serious you're being here, but the Valdore does seem like a deliberate attempt to cross the D'deridex with the KBoP (and maybe even the D7 a little).
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the KBoP was originally a Romulan design. The Klingons might of got their hands on the BoP in the same way the Romulans got the D7. In fact, for all we know, the Romulans could well have also been using the KBoP design during the late 23rd and early 24th century.
Mark: Seems like a resonable explanation but it would of been nice if they mentioned something in dialogue.
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That's a "rough" doodle? Phloxy, I pity any future children you might have the day they bring back finger-painted pictures to go on the refrigerator! "No, nowhere near good enough! Go back, do it again!"
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: That's a "rough" doodle? Phloxy, I pity any future children you might have the day they bring back finger-painted pictures to go on the refrigerator! "No, nowhere near good enough! Go back, do it again!"
LOL. Well I didn't want to make it sound like I'd spent weeks on it.
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