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I was browsing eBay's auction of Rick's sketches, and came across a design I hadn't seen before. It looks like it could have been a preliminary design for the Pegasus, made out of Ambassador pieces.
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Funky...I thought the Pegasus was originally supposed to be a Cheyenne-like ship?
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It's a mirandized Ambassador class. Kinda cool.
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Looks more like a Nebula-style Ambassador variant to me. Still, it would have been great if they'd been able to use it for the Pegasus; compared to all the Galaxy-based designs, there's a curious lack of similar variants for the Ambassador (at least ones that haven't been blown to smithereens by the Borg, that is).
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Apollo-class. Proof. Yes.
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Wasn't there supposed to be a design using Ambassador parts that Sternbach did for Cause and Effect, before the design was relegated to a Miranda redress?
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No, I believe the Bozeman was originally supposed to be a TOS Constitution class ship (presumably with a better name than "Bozeman").
About this concept art: The TNG Companion states that the Pegasus was supposed to be a new model based on the Ambassador-class era design. It didn't say anything about it having four nacelles, or that it was based on the Cheyenne class. I think some people got that impression because of a panel showing what looked like two nacelle pairs, but it could have easily been something else.
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I'm almost positive that the Soyuz class was originally supposed to be a completely new model. They had to cut corners by adding onto the Miranda. I doubt it was supposed to use Ambassador parts, though. That would've made it too new for the uniforms they used.
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Y'know what that reminds me of. The Curry. Especially the nacelles.
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Has anyone seen the AGT Klingon cruiser sketch yet? Looks like it was originally going to be a modified Vor'cha, but then decided to make it completely from scratch. Funny, it usually happens the other way round.
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Y'know what that reminds me of. The Curry. Especially the nacelles.
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I'm sold. I'll build that as soon as i can dig up another 2500th Ambassador kit. ...although I think I'll angle the nacelle pylons (like the Miranda's) and shape the deflector more like a rounded triangle with pointing down.
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Hope this isn't too much of a tangent, but have you seen some of hte other sketches there? Concepts for whackloads of ships, phasers, and the like. Wow!
quote:I'm almost positive that the Soyuz class was originally supposed to be a completely new model. They had to cut corners by adding onto the Miranda. I doubt it was supposed to use Ambassador parts, though. That would've made it too new for the uniforms they used.
I remember when "Trials & Tribble-ations" came out, someone had stated that they were finally able to show a model of the TOS Enterprise, something that they were going to do in "Cause & Effect" (presumably with another Connie, not Kirk's). However, unlike with the DS9 episode which was produced during Star Trek's 30th anniversary or whatever, at the time of TNG it was cost-prohibitive to do this because:
1. They would have had to pay Greg Jein a lot of money to build a model which would have been used for only one episode (since a TOS Connie wouldn't be a viable "guest starship" in future episodes of TNG;
2. They would have had to spend a lot of money building a TOS bridge set for the conversation between Picard & Bateson, which again, they wouldn't be able to use in future TNG eps; and
3. The costume department would have to make all new TOS uniforms, which, yet again, wouldn't be able to be used past the one episode. So instead TPTB...
1. paid Gein a much smaller amount to just add some doodads to the Reliant model;
2. Reused the movie Enterprise bridge, which IIRC was still being used for the Trek films; and
3. Reused old movie uniforms for Kelsey Grammer & the extras.
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