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Peregrinus
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Thanks, Aban. I just held them up against each other, and you're right. Crap. The quest for old models resumes.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Wait a tick... there's no shuttlebay on the Yeager.

None on the Springfield, Medusa, Challenger, Polaris or Centaur either.
Unless they're blended into the hull like on the NX-01 or Defiant. [Big Grin]
It's anybody's guess as to the shuttlebay locations on Norway and Sabre.
I had to add those in "creativly" on many of my models: my Medusa has two landing pads/ elevators in the saucer, for example.

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I'm not sure if I agree with that list...

Challenger is made of two E-D top halves, so it should have TWO shuttlebays.

Medusa is made of Excelsior and E-B top halves, so it has those E-B shuttlebayish thingamabobs.

Centaur has the Excelsior shuttlebay part, which may or may not be a shuttlebay (I believe it's a deflector, but that's only because I believe in the "small ship" interpretation of the Centaur).

And the Saber has the pronounced frontal openings that are big enough to be Steamrunner-style shuttlebays unless we take the Saber to be 170 meters long. She's far more likely to be 300 or even 400 meters long, if we count the window rows...

Not that every ship would *have* to have a shuttlebay. I'm quite happy with the idea that the Norway had none, for example. But adding bays to the Yeager should be simple enough. Note how the Maquis ship hull has several vertical surfaces with distinctively colored rectangular greeblies on them? The ones in the aft corners could quite well be doors to Miranda-style shuttlebays!

(As an aside, where do you put landing pads in a Medusa? No matter which way you turn it, there's always a nacelle or two in the way of a clean landing! [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] )

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Jason Abbadon
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I stand corrected!
That is definitely a shuttlebay at the fore of the Centaur: I dont buy that "it's a deflector conviently made from shuttlebay parts" crap.

The Sabre is 170 meters long. It's forward opening could still be a Defiant sized shuttle bay though or it's bay could be fush with the ship's aft.

The Challenger shuttlebay is debatable: the nacelle support pillar is kinds blocking the way.
...although not as much as on the Nebula's saucer. [Wink]

I use the Medusa's impulse engines AS engines so I made the landing pads on the saucer (three of them!).
Scroll down to the USS Enkidu to see it:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1301771&uid=657989

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Here is the thread!!

Hey - I was just thinking - the other episode that has only ever had the crappiest of crap caps - and by the one person only - on the whole of the net that I can work out - is the opening of A Time to Stand with the kitbashes!! Seeing as season 6 is now out on DVD - can someone FINALLY cap the start with those ships!!

Oh and every morsal from SoA! [Smile]

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Can we also get some screen grabs of the very cool disabled Malinche from season 5?

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Can we at least get caps of the Armada before we move on to other episodes?
Or, can someone at least post something picture-wise?

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What do people use for screen cap capability with DVD? I have two player software on my system and neither work for grabs. They do the same as the "Prt Scr" key...they take the pic, but it's taking a blank image, not the image from the show. I can't seem to circumvent this feature.

Who's using software that works reliably?

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Peregrinus
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I have an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon video card that I use to watch TV on my computer. It has screen-cap ability, but I don't have the DVDs, or access to them -- not yet.

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Scott Nixon has sent me screenshots of the fleets from CtA and ATtS.

Enjoy:
http://home.arcor.de/spike730/screenshots/

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So cool, thank him for us, and thanks Spike!

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Thanks indeed!

These are just plain beautiful. Random comments:

-Many, many deflectors (Steamrunners, Sabers, Akiras) switched off in the big fleet. Looks a bit funny. Wouldn't a CGI ship like that automatically have all lights on in a pass? (Then again, perhaps in fleet action it is customary to deflect for your buddy, so that not all the units have to be on.)

-The small interceptors in the ragtag fleet appear to have pilots inside! Single pilots, possibly yellowish flight suits, scale uncertain but IMHO more supportive of the 15m interceptor than the 30m one. Never noticed them before.

-Only the Curry and the Raging Queen can be positively identified. One can almost read the Curry registry off the hull!

-All the Miranda-like background smears in the shot seem to be Mirandas, not this "Constitution variant" or "Polaris" design.

-Which leaves only one possible Frankenstein ship to ID, the one trailing behind the Raging Queen. I agree it should be the Elkins.

-Why don't these guys do anything to stop the constant leakage of sparky stuff from the wrecks? I'd hate to tow a firecracker that's still sizzling like that...

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Jason Abbadon
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I'd sat these caps support what I've said all along:
That tug is a KLINGON design.
It's green with red nacelle glow (not exactly standard for a Fed ship).
Stupid STTM!

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Aban Rune
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Of course it's a Klingon tug. Everyone who thinks otherwise is plain full of silliness.

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Is the highlighted ship the one you think might be the Elkins? At first I was thinking Miranda... but there's a structure to starboard that doesn't look right for a Randy.

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Jason Abbadon
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It's unlikely that's the Elkins: I'm using my own model to try and match that shot with no luck.
The screenshot's ship seems to have a miranda-ish saucer whereas the Elkins' Intrepid saucer would be much taller and more visible.
Looks more like another Curry to me.

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