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Is it just me, or does the curve of the upper saucer seem so shallow as to be on-existent? Apart from the central bit (about a quarter of the radius, from where you can see running lights shining outwards providing illumination) which shows some dome-like properties. Perhaps the saucer shows greater curvature below than above (like, say, an Excelsior or Ambassador saucer flipped over). Mind you, the view we got from inside shows the underside as being quite flat as well. . .
That view seems to have been from part of the central section - but where might the under-dome you can see below located? If it's at the centre of the saucer ventral, then the sentral hammerhead section is only really prominent on the ventral surface. . .
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The window's position that archer/Daniels is looking out from suggests a steep secondary hull: not how far above then the saucer's ventral side is.
A big ship indeed.
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I further think that the curvature of the dorsal hull is acceptable simply because the ship is so darn big. Recall the upper decks of the GCS... Even the lower ones had rather oblique angles.
Hey, is it possible that the hammerhead secion isn't even resing on the saucer? That the dorsal superstructure actually arcs OVER it for a part of the length, especially aftwards? The windows on the saucer seem to stop rather abruptly at the apparent intersection point.
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Altered gravity might lead "upwards" into quarters so that those windows are facing their inhabitants. Just a small tweak to artificail gravity in the decks, really.
Also, while not terriblyy clear from my scan, there are formation lights (the ACL Red and green ones) at te saucer's edge that would be frankly, enourmous at that scale and the font for the ship's regisry is the same as the NX-01 and not Starfleet Bold Extended.
That's odd as the Relativity has the SBE font...
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Wow... I'd like to see a model made once the details of the model are released...
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Hey, is it possible that the hammerhead secion isn't even resing on the saucer? That the dorsal superstructure actually arcs OVER it for a part of the length, especially aftwards? The windows on the saucer seem to stop rather abruptly at the apparent intersection point.
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I got the same impression. At least it would make the side view of the vessel much more interesting. (There's probably a secondary hull somwhere below the saucer, I suppose some sort of Akira-style bubble.)
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I think if the spine does in deed arc over the saucer, it would have to connect at the aft of the saucer somehow.
I wouldn't put too much trust in the details of the texture, though, either. It probably wasn't meant to be scrutinized.
Interestingly, there appears to be a starfleet medical logo on the shuttle flying over the Ent B in the Fleet Museum photo.
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Is that Kes' shuttle near the left edge of the E-D's saucer in the museum pic?
I noticed the medical logo on the Type-6 as well.
As for the E-J, I think that spine is completely attached to the saucer. It's just the semi-transparent glowy hemisphere in the middle that seems to be throwing people off. Plus, it doesn't look like it was rendered with shadow mapping turned on completely.
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Oh, and I absolutely love the ENT era Klingon BOP. It really looks like an old ship to me. Too bad we didn't see much of it. Maybe we'll get to see more of it in the future.
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And the ship to the upper right (above the runabout) is the one Kes flew in "Fury", also seen elsewhere in Voyager. Other small craft include the ENT inspection pod and the VOY speedboat shuttle.
The museum is a great idea, though poorly executed. As fun as the name "Enterprise" is, I'd have liked a mishmash of other names even more - more realistic and practical. The DS9 image is good save for the naming thing (Mojo was just getting good at that, and I hope the new groups do too for 2006). The fans DO notice names and numbers!
Gotta remember though, this isn't like the other calendars, which are more often than not just someone searching through the photo archives and slapping together a relatively simple layout. For SOTL we've got artists doing actual work for the project - and I'm sure they're not doing it with a Hollywood budget. Little mistakes (like the GCS model that was relabeled "Challenger" for Voyager but the smaller labels were left as "Enterprise", as seen in TWO calendars) don't get corrected, since they'd never be seen on TV and the artist probably forgot about it in the first place. We can only hope that future calendars will slowly but surely fix these mistakes.
"The museum is a great idea, though poorly executed. As fun as the name 'Enterprise' is, I'd have liked a mishmash of other names even more - more realistic and practical."
Except, it wasn't meant to me "realistic". The entire point is that it's the Enterprises. If it were meant to be "realistic", they certainly couldn't have two E-nils, plus they'd have to leave it, the C, and the D out, since they were all destroyed before the E ever existed.
Oh, by the way, I count twenty decks just in the E-J's saucer's outer ring alone.
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