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true dat..
the eurostile-ish TM font that Franz Joseph used is probably only appropo on ships that were painted after 2265 ad before 2272.. since we know that the 1701 was painted in the Fleet Old School that ad been used since ENT and that after TMP they started using SF bold and SF bold Ext.. (this makes the FJ prints technically right for his ship.. if they were detailed in the years after Kirks FYM began but before TMP there is nothing to disprove thats the font the fleet used)
however, using that font for the border does look doable...
i really like the perspective and he gradations on the ship too.. pretty nifty
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quote: That's brilliant! How long did it take you to do THAT!?
The Ortho took me about five hours solid, the rest about an hour and a half. Some of it was "off the shelf" stuff though. (that moon for example is Mimas not Luna)
I used "MicrogrammaDMedExt" on purpose since that's what FJ used on his blueprints, sincee this is after all the Constitution and not the Enterprise. But if you really want to get into a debate about cannon then remember that this is also just a logo and would have been drafted before "The Big C" was completed, so it wouldn't necessarily reflect the exact appearance of the actual NCC-1700.
You give any thought to having these made up as actual patches? Wish I was still in Korea, 'cause I could take stuff like this downtown and have several dozen done up for cheap, man.
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It rocks, Rev! One thing though: should'nt the depicted version be of the "pilot version" with the antenna things sticking out from the bussard collectors?
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But somehow that font always leaves me with the bad taste of fandom's creme de la crap schematics.
Well you know just how much attention I pay to the old fandom stuff, so in this case ignorance is bliss.
quote: Very kewel!
You give any thought to having these made up as actual patches? Wish I was still in Korea, 'cause I could take stuff like this downtown and have several dozen done up for cheap, man.
There is a website that makes up this kind of thing (usually mugs and t-shirts) for anyone who wants it, although personally I wouldn't be interested in owning one, although I'm sure others would.
quote: It rocks, Rev! One thing though: should'nt the depicted version be of the "pilot version" with the antenna things sticking out from the bussard collectors?
Once more - it's the Constitution, not the Enterprise and the Constitution's blueprints didn't include Bussard spikes.
Once more - it's the Constitution, not the Enterprise and the Constitution's blueprints didn't include Bussard spikes. [/QB]
I thought all Connies of that era would have the bussard spikes and that the series version of the Enterprise was just the first of many refits. You think the Enterprise was the only ship with this feature? Even the Deadalus has the spikes. Possible I guess....look at the Venture. Still...the blueprints were made after the show ended and may not be correct (there are dozens of bad blueprints out there). Does the blueprint you have use the nacelle vent end caps or the series version.
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How 'bout a nice Connie or two to go with it? (BTW did I ever get these to you? These may be a bit better than the ones I initially sent.)
Jason: Personally, I've never really bought the fandom view that FJ's prints represent a "fifth-year" refit of the design. I've always thought of them as showing the original configuration of the prototype, and the other versions (see here) came later. (Or were also contemporaries. Wet navies today ofen have variations in design among the initial batches of vessel classes built, IIRC.)
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That's great, Rev. I'm actually working on a Connie article for the Starfleet Museum and need to make a Connie development patch.
A few nits: 1. I agree that you should have the pilot version. The notion that Constitution herself would have no spikes and the new bridge 20 years before Enterprise doesn't make sense. 2. The lower disc mound looks a bit funky, especially at the left. You also have that bright underside of the disc edge over there contrasting with the very dark mound. The bright part of the mound also disappears against the front edge of the disc. 3. Should a development patch be hexagonal? 4. The most important text ("Connie class development project") is the smallest on the patch. Did you try spreading that across the top three sides?
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One little thing that really applies to all of these development patches; if they're supposed to be a development project, how come they have a picture of the final design on? Surely development project means the design is still being developed?
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One little thing that really applies to all of these development patches; if they're supposed to be a development project, how come they have a picture of the final design on? Surely development project means the design is still being developed?
Perhaps they are designed afterwards, so the designers can sew it to their jackets in a kind of "look at me - I designed the Constitution's toilets" type gesture.
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