quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Jolly good! Then perhaps you can help me with the geography of San Francisco. I've been scratching my head over this one for ages and I can't work out where anything is supposed to be.
Maybe this will help...
The following are images from ST_TMP:DE:
...and this...
One of the reasons I asked who did these shots is that all the plates for these shots were done from the north side of the bridge, and one was flopped and altered to appear as if from the other side. But the dead giveaway is that the bridge is not symmetrical.
Specifically... 1. The north tower is right by the shoreline on the Marin side 2. The south tower stands out in the channel and has a caison around its base 3. Between the south end of the bridge and the cable anchorage an arch was built over the old Civil War era fort there
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Great work! Having not even set foot on the american continent I've had to rely on rough maps and photos for reference as to where things are, good to meet someone who actually knows the area!
Ok, now try and place the shots from ST:IV, TNG & DS9.
Perhaps we should assume that the bridge has been altered in the intervening centuries, so that the ground around the north tower has eroded away and has been replaced by a large caisson that looks a bit like the Fort Point one? Are there any real views of the north pylon in any of the Trek movies? Or in DS9?
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I think that the Federation just put up some holoemitters to confuse offworld tourists. It's like an MC Escher drawing!
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If SanFran is full of gays in modern times, then where are they in the 24th centruy? Did they fire them into the sun with all the lawyers? Or are they some kind of slave-class that Starfleet uses to build Starships in orbit?
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Don't forget the opening VFX shots of "Endgame", which has Voyager flying under the bridge (and presumably people standing on it and waving). Can Voyager even fit under that thing? Or the BoP, for that matter?
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Well, you could assume the bridge has been altered, but that's also not consistent with what's shown on screen, as some of the shots facing "north" are correct and others mistakenly use the southern view and the fort and its arch. Plus, the geography on each side of the bridge is such that it doesn't really allow such a thing to happen.
I got a kick out of that topmost image in that I could see so many recognizable landmarks, such as the Bay Bridge, and the Bank of America building. The funny thing about the image if you know what you're looking at the eastern span of the Bay Bridge (from Yerba Buena Island to Oakland) is readily apparent...however, even now they're building a replacement for it, so the span seen in that shot would be obstructed by the new bridge.
If anyone has Trek screen grabs of the SF area from other films and wants me to similarly "geographize" them, let me know.
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quote:Originally posted by Styrofoaman: If SanFran is full of gays in modern times, then where are they in the 24th centruy? Did they fire them into the sun with all the lawyers? Or are they some kind of slave-class that Starfleet uses to build Starships in orbit?
Didn't you know? They run the Federation! Queer Eye for the SpaceGuy.
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"Can Voyager even fit under that thing? Or the BoP, for that matter?"
The BoP, sure. Even at high tide there's still a 220ft clearance between the deck and GG strait.
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Whether it can fit under the bridge or not, flying a starship that close to a presumably occupied structure seems a neadlessly risky manuever to pull for a publicity stunt.
Don't cadets that look like helm officers get thrown out of starfleet for stuff like that?
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...And with Voyager being around 66m tall, that's a mighty tight fit even at low tide. Paris was obviously looking for something else for Starfleet to hate him for.
quote:The Academy (huh? the model says Starfleet Command.. I'm confused now
Yeah, that's Starfleet Command from DS9 Homefront/Paradise Lost.
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That last pic of the medical building also says "Star Fleet" instead of "Starfleet" on the sign to the left under the globe.
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