quote:Originally posted by Bond, James Bond: ...considering many military bases are located within the heart of or on the outskirts of major cities like San Diego and San Francisco, etc.
As to San Francisco, once upon a time there was a lot of military around here, but there aren't significant military bases in the Bay Area any more. The Presidio is a national park, Alameda isn't a naval base any more, Moffet Field is NASA, etc.
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"...Scotland (Aberdeen, if you accept the reams of written Trek material)..."
I could be remembering incorrectly, but didn't Scotty mention Aberdeen in "Wolf in the Fold"? It seems like he definitely mentioned some Scottish city, at least.
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You also forgot the mention the Picard Family Vineyards in I think it was Le Havre France.
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LaBarre it was called, been mentioned last page
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Oh there it is. See, when you get to be the ripe of age of 23 your eyesight isnt as good as it used to be.
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See what happens when Enterprise has no tech to speculate on?!? We're forced to consider any little thing just to keep the geeky parts of our brains active and not start another thread about the BOBW fleet or the length of the Defiant.
Curse you techless episodes!
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You know, cities do have a tendency to get rebuilt from time to time. You can go visit Jericho, after all. Or, for that matter, Hiroshima.
The dude from "The Price" was born in, I believe, Brussels. Well, I guess I could just check the encyclopedia.
"...Brussels, in the European alliance" is what it says. European alliance is a kind of clunky name though, if you ask me. I'm sure Earth's government could get away with just calling it "Europe."
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Just an addendum to this topic, but I think I figured out where Kirk's apt. in TWOK and TSFS is supposed to be. I was looking at an old behind the scenes photo where film production crew memebers are setting up miniature buildings outside the windows of the Kirk apartment set. Behind the model buildings is a cyclorama of the bay area (left over from another movie), from which I can tell that the approximate point of view for the cyclorama is either Russian Hill or Telegraph Hill (where Coit Tower is located). If the latter, Kirk's more or less above (and slightly south of) Fisherman's Wharf.
The Northern California Movies site I linked to claims Russian Hill, but from my perspective I'm thinking Telegraph Hill.
The distant city lights seen to the right of Kirk in the image above would be Sausalito. Those just to the left of his head would be Fort Baker, which is where Starfleet HQ is situated in Enterprise.
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I always thought it was quite a cool apartment - well when it's a moving picture.
So is this on the south side or the north side of the bay? Close into San Francisco or out near the heads - which is where the GG Bridge is isn't it?
Forgive me if I've fucked that all up - I've never been to San Francisco - my mental map is made up from what I've seen on Trek! And maybe a map here or there (probably posted here) (possibly in this thread even).
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I always thought it was quite a cool apartment - well when it's a moving picture.
So is this on the south side or the north side of the bay? Close into San Francisco or out near the heads - which is where the GG Bridge is isn't it?
Forgive me if I've fucked that all up - I've never been to San Francisco - my mental map is made up from what I've seen on Trek! And maybe a map here or there (probably posted here) (possibly in this thread even).
Here, again, is a map I made a few years ago. Kirk's apt. is either at the point labeled Coit Tower/Telegraph Hill, or slightly to the left of that on Russian Hill.
San Francisco is on the south side of the Golden Gate, the channel that connects the Bay to the ocean, as such, it's neither south or north bay. Kind of "above the middle of the bay". The bay is to the east, the Golden Gate is to the north, the Pacific Ocean is to the west, and the burbs are south.
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Seeing the "relative proximity" of all the Command structures, I'm wondering iff the whole area including the Presidio, the Bridge itself, & the "anchor ends" aren't set aside as "Federation territory" with the whole area being a massive sort of historical heritage area. That way, Starfleet could keep people from spraying "Ixkgnortgvkt rules!!" on the old buildings & such.
Also, I never liked the idea of the Federation Council being in San Francisco. There were no windows in the chambers, so how do we know it's not in Brussels or Geneva or Berlin or somewhere else it would make more sense for the Federation President (based in Paris) to get to?
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