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Broken Bow, Oklahoma is a real town, the ZIP code is 74728
When Braga was writing the ENT premiere, he originally had Broken Bow set in another state, it was a real town he knew of. He then changed it to say that it was in Oklahoma because he didn't want to refer to the real town.
What he didn't know was that there was also a Broken Bow in OK. Although they don't have cornfields, the biggest farm industry there is chicken farming i believe, but things could change in the next 148 years and upcoming world war(s) lol am i rite guyz
Carbon Creek, according to mapquest, exists in Alaska, Arizona and California.. i'm dubious that any of those could be the town from the ep, although im amused that the CA town is near Paramount, CA (and Garden Grove / Long Beach for Sublime fans)...
however, searches indicate that while it might not always be a town name, its a common name for coal mining areas.. did the ep give a state location?
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IIRC the New York hall of fame was mentioned in (DS9 "In The Cards"). As for Washington, I SERIOUSLY doubt that city came through WWIII unscathed. Either the Smithsonian was moved or the city was rebuilt to some degree. Either way it's not going to be called Washington DC anymore, probably Washington City, or just Washington...maybe even Otisburg.
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Marseilles was shown in the alternate universe of "Non Sequiter" and in several holodeck representations (though all we see is the inside of a bar). So it's still around.
What was the city in the Midwest US where the Millenium Gate was being built in that horrible VOY ep "11:59"? I think it was in Indiana.
Cambridge was shown in "AGT..."
Tokyo's OK because they mentioned Tokyo R&D. Hoshi's from somewhere in Japan. The school she taught at was in Brazil.
Malcolm's parents live in Malaysia.
Idaho is mostly intact because that's where Kirk's uncle's barn was.
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quote:Originally posted by Bond, James Bond: Idaho is mostly intact because that's where Kirk's uncle's barn was.
Must be one big barn...
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Depending a bit on how WWIII was fought, I find it quite plausible that the biggest cities would have had better odds of survival than the smaller ones. There could have been advanced missile defenses in place, but they'd have protected Washington better than Tuscaloosa. Or bioweapons might have been unleashed to kill city populations, but their delivery systems would have inflicted relatively little physical damage. Enough perhaps to level a small city, but not a large one.
Riker did insist that "major cities were destroyed". Yet we never saw any hint of war damage to the real estate in any episode or movie. Perhaps the bioweapon theory is the best angle here. Or perhaps instead of nukes, the parties used orbital bombardment techniques that destroyed cities block by block, skipping some blocks and resulting in the skylines we witness in TNG.
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Mabye Neutron weapons? Only kills organics and leaves the buildings standing, dontcha know. Gotta get me one o' them bueaties.
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That guy trying to kiss up to Riker mentioned his grandfather was Canadian too....
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I think Worf also mentioned Minsk as a good city for O'Brian to live in. I forget what the other suggestions were, although I'm sure Sisko would have said New Orleans.
As for how WWIII was fought, I think orbital bombardment was certainly one method used, given that (other than breaking the cease fire) the Borg attack on Resurrection didn't seam at all unfamiliar to Cochrane or Sloane. However Riker said MOST of the major cities had been destroyed, not just some or the majority. Remember that cities don't require a direct hit from a tactical nuke to be destroyed. Economic collapse can do it just as easy, if a city's infrastructure ceases to function then fires tend to burn out of control, looters cause widespread damage and civil unrest, the dead rot where they fall, disease, famine, drought, pestilence...you get the idea. Of course this is the kind of damage that would have happened after the war. So while it it possible that allot of nukes would have been thrown around, most of the targets would probably have been major military targets. I can certainly see Cheyenne Mountain being little more than a broken hill by the 23rd Century.
Which, of course, raises the question of whether or not there was another Russian Revolution (possibly post-WWIII?) or SF Command just has really old maps.
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