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The Q for Jubes is how much federal funding do they get. Villanova and Georgetown get federal funds and lets about everything go. Asbury gets zip and can then have strict rules.
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Well, if they claim that they accept all religions, then they do, by law; it's as simple as that. Basically, unless people get in trouble for stamping a cross in the snow, it's unjust discrimination, IMO.
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"Now you see what i'm on about! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Come ans see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm bein' repressed!"
Now you know. They lie. They ALL lie. When those types speak of 'freedom of religion,' what they really mean is 'freedom to be some form of Christian.'
Jubilee and her friends did NOT 'ask for it.' Saying so is equivalent to saying a woman was 'asking for it' if she was walking down the street in a halter top and got attacked by some jackass who couldn't control his testosterone. It's utter crap, and should not be tolerated. These people claim to be tolerant, but they lie. End of story.
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You don't go to a Mosque and expect a reading of Genesis. Nor do you go to the local 'Seventh Day Adventist' Bible school to learn about Buddha.
Religious facilities, like it or not, almost exclusively focus on their religion. It's almost a no-brainer. Catholic School = Catholic Religion. Duh.
I suppose they reason they put their 'acceptance' of other religions (or cults) in their charter, or whatnot is so that they seem not a biased as they obviously will be.
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I go to this college because they have a good Graphics program, and because they gave me enough scholarship money to go. They were the ONLY college that had those two options.
Not everyone gets their choice about where to live or go to school.
And it shouldn't matter. If it states in their anti-discrimination policy that thye don't discriminate, then that's it. They don't.
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Oh, yes. I mean, they had no right to complain, obviously. But I'm just saying that I wouldn't have expected them to realize that.
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Jubilee already knows my views on this topic.
They were wrong, she is right (but I would have gotten a bit more belligerent about it ).
1st of 2: Damn, but I wish I could email you! You hit the nail on the head. If they say they will tolerate other religions on their campus, then that's how they must implement their policy.
Who is better qualified to determine if a symbol stamped in the snow is a Wiccan religious symbol; a campus thu... er, cop? Or the Wiccan who did the stamping?
I'd hate to see someone tell me that some thing I did in the name of my beliefs was evil and intended to cause harm. It would become a self-fulfilling prophecy, I guarantee it!
--Baloo
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Sue their pants off, Jubes. Simple false advertizing case. Someone with NO legal experience should be able to win this. Heck, I'd do it if I could.
Well, maybe not their pants off. Just get enough to pay your entire tuition to any school in the country, plus transportation costs, plus room and board. And about $25,000 extra, just for your trouble. That way, you can get your choice about where you live and go to school. UCSC, maybe (just to throw out a random school)? But I don't know why you'd want to go there...
Ohh, First's addy! Gotta save that. *WEG*
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Thanks, First, but you could've just gotten my address from my profile and mailed me. I could've then copied your addy from the header, and no-one would've had to see your address.
Wow! Now I have it, I'm afraid to use it. I might succumb to the temptation to forward every silly website I stumble across.
Don't worry, I'll restrain myself. Now where did I put those chains?
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By the way, DT, if someone allows someone else on their property by way of an agreement, such as the terms stated in their campus policy, it's considered fraud to violate those terms. The only way they could legally have done what they did is to change their policy first. They would probably have to announce the change in such a way as to ensure that those affected would be very unlikely to not notice.
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Baloo: Profiles don't show email addresses.
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