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Jubilee
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Exactly.

I shouldn't HAVE to choose somewhere else.

And actually, I didn't really have a choice in colleges.... This was the one that gave me money.

And thanks for the offer, Liam....... Maybe i'll take you up on that.

Anyways, all we got was a tiny thwack on the wrist and a "Don't do that" from the dean of students. I think we actually earned her respect.

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PsyLiam
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Jeez, Kosh. How long ago did the War of Independence take place? Let it go.

And, going by statistics, I'd say the latter of your two options is what stops most fights in the US.

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Dane Simri
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I'd be interested to know, Jubes, if the college asked for your religious preference in any of their application materials. In other words, did they know you were wiccan before accepting you as a student and financing your studies?

Also, what exactly does the school's official, written policy state? Does it state that they will ACCEPT as students people of all religions, or that they will respect the right of people of all religions to PRACTICE their religion on campus?

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First of Two
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Hmm.. looking for a very fine sliver of semantics there?

If you accept people of different religions to attend and reside at a place, how can you NOT expect them to practice their religions there?

I mean, sure, there are "Sunday Christians" (and others) who only 'practice' their religion at church, but with ritual-driven religions (such as wicca and Islam), practice of them is a permanent fixture of life. For instance, a Jew who refuses to eat pork on campus is practicing his religion on campus.

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bryce
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*Not sure where you were goiung with that, but...*

Asbury has the policy you described and it works; in fact, we force students to attend chapel.

Christians also fulfill what they are "commanded" to do just like any other religious people. What we are commanded to do is a little simpler; it is a part of why the practice of Christianity is so appealling.

In fact, I am fulfilling one of a Christian's jobs by posting this message.

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Mythril
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Not for me thank you.

I prefer the right to sleep in. why do you have to go to church anyways it is not like that is the only place to talk to your prefered deity.

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Omega
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Who said you had to go to church? I don't believe Christ ever specifically commanded it (correct me if I'm wrong, bryce). It's simply a place where we can get together to encourage each other, and maybe learn something in the process. Someone once used the analogy of a pep rally. You can live without it, but it can really help.

And there are usually services on Sunday nights and Wednsday nights, if you prefer to sleep in the morning.

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bryce
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I saw it this week and I can't remember who said it, but someone did say you need to go to church. It's along the lines of you need to be with a body of believers to grow in your faith. I'll find it out.

Ok, it Hebrews 10:24,25. It says to provoke one another to love and good deeds, meet together, and encourage one another until the Second Coming.
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Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great:
He was revealed in the flesh,
vindicated in spirit,
seen by angels,
proclaimed among Gentiles,
believed in throughout the world,
taken up in glory.
*First Timothy 3:16*

[This message has been edited by bryce (edited February 17, 2000).]


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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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That doesn't specifically state that you need to go to a church.

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bryce
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That's not a quote and that is what it is saying.

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"Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great:
He was revealed in the flesh,
vindicated in spirit, seen by angels,
proclaimed among Gentiles, believed in throughout the world,
taken up in glory." -Paul
*First Timothy 3:16*


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LOA
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Umm... Okay, as far as I know from here and without spending TOO much time looking it up, I don't think the Bible says anywhere that "Thou must attend church every sunday" or anything like that.... God isn't about the building and He isn't about the ritual of attending. He is about Love and that's what's important.

However, to back bryce up a bit, the bible DOES say that we as Christians need to gather together with other believers. So though it doesn't say "Go to church every sunday, even on the Superbowl" it does state pretty clearly that if you're going to live by the Christian doctrine then you shouldn't do it alone and should instead gather with those of like faith to gain support and to build faith....

Anyway.. yeah.. .that's how it is, as far as I know... however, I also haven't slept in days and I'm not thinking coherently... I may edit this in the morning.... TTYL....

~LOA

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bryce
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My point exactly; the easiest way to spend time with other believers is to go to church with them.

You need to remember too, the "church" didn't exist until some time after the death of Christ. The times the word "church" are mentioned in the gospels are related to the time in which the gospels were written and who they were written to. Going into more detail would require cracking my NT Survey open (and I don't wan t to do that).

By the way, how did we get on this? I just said the word "chapel."
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"Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great:
He was revealed in the flesh,
vindicated in spirit, seen by angels,
proclaimed among Gentiles, believed in throughout the world,
taken up in glory." -Paul
*First Timothy 3:16*

[This message has been edited by bryce (edited February 18, 2000).]


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Mythril
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Church chaple basicaly the same thing.

If i had the choice i would not attend church. I prefer saying i quick payer at home then just heading off for the day.

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Dane Simri
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That was very well-stated, LOA!

The word "church" originally meant the group of people who met together. It didn't come to mean the building in which they met until they started meeting in buildings other than their own homes. It coincides with Constantine's adoption of Christianity as the state religion of Rome and the conversion of the temples of the Roman dieties into Christain meeting places in 312 AD.

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bryce
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Chapel is what my school requires us to attend. Church is just that. The two were not related in the discussion.

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He was revealed in the flesh,
vindicated in spirit, seen by angels,
proclaimed among Gentiles, believed in throughout the world,
taken up in glory." -Paul
*First Timothy 3:16*


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