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First of Two
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Here's one, to tide you over while I look for more.


"White House 'wiping clean' hard drives
News/Current Events Breaking News News
Source: WorldNetDaily.com
Published: Sunday, January 14, 2001

The White House is rushing to "wipe clean" the hard drives of computers used by President Clinton's aides before the Jan. 20 changeover, a public-interest law firm claims. Normally, when employees leave the White House, computer workers take a snapshot of the contents of their hard drives and store them as part of official records, as required by law. Then they reformat the hard drives for the next users.
But according to Judicial Watch, Inc., political aides have ordered computer workers to first run the hard drives through a software program by the firm Jetico, called B.C., or Best Crypt, which "wipes clean the drives so the next administration can't retrieve any files."
"They're starting with [the hard drives of] the most important people first -- the [White House] lawyers -- and working their way down," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "And they're working through the weekend." He added: "It's the equivalent of burning records, according to our sources," who are White House employees. The records are key to Judicial Watch's Filegate lawsuit against the White House. General counsel Larry Klayman said he passed the tip on to U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth late Friday. Calls to the White House were not returned by deadline.
Fitton said Clinton aides Mark Lindsay and Michael Lyle are heading up the project -- which is being carried out by Charles Nash, a supervisor in the White House's records management unit.

Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily.com.
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/frame/direct.asp?SITE=drudgereport.com/wh93a.htm

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Ah, I see, couldn't find anything to support your vandalism claims, so you've moved on?

Ah, at least Omega's got the right idea.

Begin: RANT

Fuck it. Bush stole the election, I know it, you know it, who gives a fuck if he's gotta clean up a bit? Cheap price. You can have the White House, just go and repaint it. GO CLINTON! Fuck that place up, 'cuz we all know that Bush ain't supposed to be there. Piece of shit rich boy. Wonder how he feels ... knowing less people voted for him than the other guy?

His Fraudulency. Ah. I've been so sick and tired of being polite in here. Fuck it. I hate the Republican Party (the Party itself, not those who make it up -- they're simply misguided. Steer clear of the Dark Side, young Luke). They claim to represent America, but clearly hate Americans. Blacks? Hah! The reasoning for only 9% of the vote is that the rest of the African-American population has been "tricked" (read: too stupid) into voting for the Dems. Well, what good what voting Republican do for 'em? Unless you're rich and white, the Republican Party doesn't care for you. I mean, that attitude right there is proof positive that the Republican Party is racist. The idea that 91% of the African-American population is too stupid to think for themselves is the most BLATANT example of racism I think I've ever seen in recent times -- except for that Texaco mess down in ... oh, yeah, Texas, what a surprise! -- and from a major political party, too! Jesus Fucking Christ! "Oh, it's all Jacksons fault ... and Sharpton ... and the NAACP! They've scared blacks by running TV ads of George W. wanting to drag black people to death on the back of pickup trucks! Hee-haw!" Good lord! Talk about arrogant presumption and completely, one-hundred percent, out-and-out racism from those who pretend to want to speak for the people! And in many cases, and this, IMHO, is much worse, pretend to be religious leaders. What pieces of shit. Falwell and the rest. What a fucking asshole that guy is.

I simply do not understand the Republican outlook. "Sure it's a free country, as long as everyone says a Christian prayer in school and follows the 10 Commandments ... except for the Commandments we don't like, so there!" What hogwash! You're going to force kids to say prayers in school? Fuck that shit. Unless you want your nice 12-year old kid saying an Islamic prayer one day or a Budhist prayer the next (you know you'd put your kid in a private school before you let that happen). And then you've got these fucking telemarketers! What the fuck? God on TV now? Fuck the big churches, God's NEW home is a 32" Digital Television? Who the fuck got this bright idea? Greedy son of a bitch he musta been -- but hey, aren't most? Naw, grandma', we don't have to go to church on Sunday, we can stay in and watch in our PJs on the television while we gorge ourselves on eggs and bacon! A great all-American-meal! "Give us money so we can spread God's word and buy ourselves a nice $5 million home in Florida."

And what is all this "All-American" crap? Will someone kindly define what an "All-American" is? 6 foot white guy with blue eyes and blonde hair who plays Football? Who fucks the cheerleaders? So much for the pre-marital stuff that some people claim to cherish. "Oh, yeah, I'm a man of God. Pardon me, I'm off to boff the prostitute." Okay, off on a tanget, pardon me.

Guns? Damn straight! Every-one should own an AK-47 with a 45-round bananna clip and silencer! Gotta defened your right to walk down the street without being accosted by a homeless man who wants to kill you for the change in your front left pocket! Cap that mo'fo! And make sure to have a Glock, a Berretta, and a knife as backup in case the clip jams.

And then of course there's the view of the correctional system. Whatever is wrong with someone, throw 'em in jail or kill 'em. That'll fix it! Hah! Even if it doesn't work, we won't try something new because it'll waste the taxpayers dollars! HAH!

George W. Bush drinks and drives? It's okay ... he takes "responsibility" ... a black reverend has a child out of wedlock? What a hypocrite! Take him out back and stone him!

Bill Clinton? He got a blowjob! In the Oval Office! What a man! This isn't what the President is supposed to do or be! He's setting the wrong example! Oh, and yeah, this is all about a lie he told. Yeah, it is. Why don't you stop telling cigar jokes then? Well, uh ... nevermind that the evidence obtained against Bill Clinton was done so illegally, in a case that was tossed out by a Judge! Not that "law" matters to Republicans. Did Nixon give a shit about the law? Nope. He most certainly did not when Watergate happened. And damn! Did you listen to his audiotapes? Can't even pretend it was someone else in the administration responsible, it's clear as anything.

Let me finish this by saying: Fuck the current administration. I wish them well, but I do not now -- nor will I ever -- believe they have a right to be there.

Thank you very much. Let the flames begin.

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[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited January 25, 2001).]

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I am just curious why nothing as of it has made bigger headline than a 'drudge report'. Isn't the World Daily News a spin off of National Enquirer??

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I am just curious why nothing as of it has made bigger headline than a 'drudge report'.

A Fox News show doesn't constitute a "big headline"? Considering the channel has actually outranked CNN in the Nielsons, I'd say that's pretty darned big.

Isn't the World Daily News a spin off of National Enquirer?

No, it's actually one of the better news sources out there. You'd do well to visit it.

As for Jeff's latest burst of irrationality, how do you want to play this, Rob? Do you want to pick it apart sentence by sentence, or shall I? Shall we divide it up? Or shall we just ignore it, and trust the resedent population's intelligence, in hopes that they'll see for themselves what a raving loon the guy is?

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What have I said that is untrue, Omega?

And which Fox news show?

Speaking of "loony", you're the one who said, "screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!" A statement you back up whenever discussing ... oh, just about anything.

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"Fox News"

Ah yes, the same high-quality network that gives you such high class shows as 'COPS', 'Temptaion Island' & 'Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire?'. The white trash programming centre of the world commands you.

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Granted, if tax money has to be used to pay for all this, people can get mad. But why go on about how "immature" the previous administration was, and all that? Why not just laugh at it? I mean, if somebody's grandmother was offended by the voicemail message, maybe the grandmother needs to be less easily offended. And that porno-hidden-in-the-printer-paper thing is rather intriguing. I wouldn't have thought of that... *L*

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Ultra: as opposed to the wonderful quality of.. what network, exactly? I mean, we all know TV's a vast wasteland. But Fox is more than its TV shows, while the other networks are not. At least I don't get my news from "The Daily Show."

Omega: while tearing the aforementioned rant into shreds would be amusing, especially beginning with the fact that the independent recounts so far show Bush still winning Florida (a fact Jeff himself admitted to when I posted it) (so how exactly can you steal something that's yours?), it would be time-consuming, and, ultimately, futile.

One can tell from the stream-of-consciousness style of the post, as well as the mixing of rants against virtually everybody who he disagrees with, as the hallmark of an unstable mental condition.

Once can see, in the continuing paltry defenses of Clinton and Jackson, the preexisting bias of the poster; "anything a Democrat does is forgiveable, including adultery and perjury, (and in case you haven't paid attention, Clinton's admitted to perjury of Congress, which remains an imeachable offense) anything a Republican does is a mortal sin," precisely the kind of hypocracy that he accuses his opponents of. This is indicative of a detatchment from reality bordering on the paranoid schizophrenic.

You can't argue sense into a deranged mind.

Oh, and he keeps getting this wrong, too. It's not "Even if it doesn't work, we won't try something new because it'll waste the taxpayers dollars!"

It's "We've shown you why it won't work, and we won't try something that'll waste taxpayer's dollars, simply because it's new. Which it isn't."

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Jon Stewart beats my canned crack cocaine. Please no more violentia towards my Jewish pastry.

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JK:

What have I said that is untrue, Omega?

Well, let's see...

Bush stole the election, I know it, you know it...
...we all know that Bush ain't supposed to be there.
Unless you're rich and white, the Republican Party doesn't care for you.

Then there's your entire "Republican Outlook" "idea", which composed most of your irrational rant. There's a reason you don't understand our beliefs: you have no idea what they are.

you're the one who said, "screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"

Is the concept of sarcasm completely alien to you?

Tim:

But why go on about how "immature" the previous administration was, and all that?

Willful destruction of public property is more than a sign of immaturity. It's a crime. Until Clinton got into office, we punished criminals. Or have you forgotten?

Rob:

Agreed. We can't convince him, due to his mental state, and he's not about to convince anyone else with such mindless ranting as that. We stand to gain nothing by arguing, nor are any losses possible due to our refraining. I suggest we dismiss Jeff as an irrelevancy, until such time as he is prepared for an actual dialogue.

I am curious, though. Liam, you were a psychiatry student for a while. Could you analyze Jeff's psychological state for us?

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I am reminded of something I call the 'slogan mentality.'

If you've ever approached a group of protestors, or a single protestor, who's chanting slogans, and tried to open a dialogue with them, to discuss your and their thoughts and feelings on the subject matter, you'll find that it's almost impossible. They only chant louder and more forcefully.

This happens whether they're shouting "No Justice, no peace," or "Fur is murder," or any of a multitude of chants (left OR right-wing, I must add)

Now, I can understand the effectiveness of a repetitive slogan in getting attention. That's a given. But to chant when someone's trying to have a civilized conversation with you?

I've come up with a few theories for why this is so; though I haven't determined which, if any, are true.

1. Chanters are people who cannot hold more than a few words, or a single concept, within their cranium at a single time. Therefore, they chant to maintain their state of thought, because intelligent conversation is beyond them.

2. Chanters haven't thought about their issue, beyond their slogan. Perhaps they were told to chant what they're saying. Perhaps they simply feel good in groups. Conversation would require deeper consideration, which they are unwilling to participate in, because they are comfortable with their beliefs and do not want them challenged.

3. Chanters aren't interested in solving the problem. They're simply in it for the attention, or to belong to a cause.

4. Chanters deeply believe in their cause, possibly for reasons that seem good to them, possibly for reasons that ARE good.. but they're not socially adept enough to be able to share their thoughts with the rest of us.

5. Chanting enables one to attain an altered state of consciousness, thus enabling one to picket for hours without a rest. Much like the highly ritualized prayers of catholicism often enable the pray-er to go into a trancelike state while praying.

5A. As per above, with the added consideration that the chanting ritual may be akin to the forms of indoctrination of many cult groups.

6. Any combination of the above.

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See, I'm setting up for my insanity defense when I walk into RNC Headquarters and shoot people

I've hardly defended Jackson, I just think what he did is between himself and his family, and it's none of my business. I simply point out the similarities between Bush's DWI arrest and Jackson's current problems, and the different reactions people are having.

There's a reason you don't understand our beliefs: you have no idea what they are

Enlighten me, Oh Omega-San. It seems to me that there is a reason that the Republican Party draws very little support from minorities and homosexuals -- because the Republican Party has a very poor track record on minority rights. Perhaps that has changed recently -- I hope it has, but it will take time for that public perception to change. Hopefully, mindless rants like the above will help illustrate that the Republican Party needs a facelift

Is the concept of sarcasm completely alien to you?

I could ask the same of you. Could not the above "rant" indeed in fact be a satire of those "chanters" you and First discussed above? Could I not in fact be using sarcasm to open a dialogue on this?

Stealing the election

This is a very subjective question, and I don't want to hear any of this "electoral collage" bullshit. Just listen.

Many people do feel that George W. Bush stole the election, and it boils down to the simple fact that Al Gore won more of the popular vote. The electoral collage seems like a "cheat" way of winning -- like typing in a cheat code in a video game to ensure victory. Yes, I am well aware of what the electoral collage is and its role in our elections -- do I think it serves its purpose? No, not really. And I think if George W. Bush had won more popular but lost the electoral, you might understand how many Democrats feel. Did he steal the election? Well, legally maybe not. But it sure feels like it.

It's "We've shown you why it won't work, and we won't try something that'll waste taxpayer's dollars, simply because it's new. Which it isn't."

Er ... you have? When? You posted a bunch of numbers from studies, most of them 10 or 15 years out of date. You pointed a finger at John Downey, Jr. You haven't proved anything. I quite honestly think this plan (rehab over jail) is a worthwhile one, and could work if implemented properly. Hell, we're wasting taxpayer dollars at $20k a year, rehab is only $4k. When has the government EVER tried a program like this? An alternative is needed to the current situation.

I notice no-one replied to my "assuming 91% of the black population is stupid is a racist way of thinking" ... I guess I got that one correct, huh?

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Mmm, hate. Pure and smooth, just like mom used to make.

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With caramal topping.

Sol, do you know that the link to Chap. 3 isn't working?

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