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An even simpler rationalization would be to say that each insignum design is associated with a specific, numbered Fleet, of the kind introduced in DS9. The one used by the Enterprise might have been for the 5th Fleet, regularly based off SB 11. Since the Constitutions are pretty big and useful ships, each Fleet has one - so it's only natural that Kirk would encounter these different insignia when meeting up with other Constitutions.
Hmm. Are there specific patches for the Fleets in the USN? The old RN? The four Soviet Fleets?
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I believe the Soviet fleet uniforms had distingishing features, but I have no idea what they were.
Also, its not quite the same but 150-odd years ago, the three squadrons of the RN (red, white, blue) flew different flags on their ships.
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: An even simpler rationalization would be to say that each insignum design is associated with a specific, numbered Fleet, of the kind introduced in DS9. The one used by the Enterprise might have been for the 5th Fleet, regularly based off SB 11. Since the Constitutions are pretty big and useful ships, each Fleet has one - so it's only natural that Kirk would encounter these different insignia when meeting up with other Constitutions.
Timo Saloniemi
I like this theory. Sounds very logical. The Enterprise could've been part of the 5th Exploratory Fleet, while the Exeter was part of the 7th Exploratory Fleet.. etc.
And why are there theories? Because the costume department made an error (probably due to budget restrictions) and the fans tried to find an explanation for that error.
quote:while the starburst in "Court Martial" and "Menagerie" symbolized Commodore with a base command.
But Wesley also wore the starburst, although he commanded the Lexington.
quote:An even simpler rationalization would be to say that each insignum design is associated with a specific, numbered Fleet
IIRC we saw two different insignia on the same vessel.
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quote:IIRC we saw two different insignia on the same vessel.
Now when did this happen? Granted, it would totally ruin the "insignum per Fleet" idea. Unless we consider the guy, gal or BEM with the wrong badge to be an observer, random transferee or even evacuee from another Fleet...
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: An even simpler rationalization would be to say that each insignum design is associated with a specific, numbered Fleet, of the kind introduced in DS9. The one used by the Enterprise might have been for the 5th Fleet, regularly based off SB 11. Since the Constitutions are pretty big and useful ships, each Fleet has one - so it's only natural that Kirk would encounter these different insignia when meeting up with other Constitutions.
Hmm. Are there specific patches for the Fleets in the USN? The old RN? The four Soviet Fleets?
Timo Saloniemi
Yes, every fleet and every ship in the USN (and , IIRC, the RN) have their own patches, crest, and motto.
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I've just seen VOY State of Flux (the episode after VOY Prime Factors): Tuvok: 2 solid pips, 1 hollow pip Paris: 2 solid pips Torres: 2 solid stripes
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