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The bajorans seem to use "Colonel" and "General" the way Starfleet uses "Commander" and "Captain". That would account for Kira's Commander status in Starfleet. The Bajoran medical uniform diffrence could indicate one as a nurse and the other as a doctor, or mabye the colored shoulders represents a specialization department or intern.
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I don't buy it ... for one thing, General is a flag rank -- there's no way its in use as much as a Starfleet captains rank is. Why did Kira go from being a Bajoran Colonel to a Starfleet Commander? Well who said the transfer was exact? She could've gone to a lower rank because of Sisko's captain rank, to placate the Cardie rebels, or because of who knows why.
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Or she could have been a Lieutenant Colonel. Which is equivilent to a Commander. Everyone just calls her Colonel cos it's shorter. See; problem solved
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Like in SF when everyone calls Lt. Commanders just Commander. Works for me.
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could be some facet of Starfleet that requires a certain amount of training or service to hold the rank of captain
for example, we know that Troi couldnt become a full commander unless she completed some Kobayashi Maru style scenarios and bridge command tests, etc..
but what if an officer serving in an allied service held the rank equivalent to commander, but lacked any of the training or experience Starfleet required of its commanders, and was coming into the Fleet? could be they would be awarded the Lt Cmdr rank until they completed the requirements to become an actual Starfleet Cmdr..
I can see this easily happening with the captain grade, for weve seen that Starfleet captains have a broad range of discretionary powers, theyd probably not want to give the rank away unless certain training levels and expectations were met.
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Question: Will Kira ever get promoted? If not, will we get some explanation why not? Its starting to seem like a glaring oversight...
Answer from Ron D. Moore: Promoting Kira would make her "Colonel Kira" ( and Lt. Col. Kira would still be shortened to "Col. Kira" in dialog just as Lt. Cmdr. is shortened to Commander) and none of us think this would sound very good. It's really that simple and no other reason.
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Are you implying that all Bajoran officers become Starfleet officers?
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Maybe he is implying that she remained in Starfleet or permanantly transferred to Starfleet. I think to a certain degree they become integrated into Starfleet once a race joins the Federation, perhaps on a voluntary scale, but I also think that they would keep their own identity as well. Vulcan is part of Starfleet/the Federation and that didnt stop them from having their own defense forces ("Unification, p2" & "Gambit p2") otherwise they would have simply just had their own supply of Starfleet vessels at thier disposal for those scenarios. Perhaps in the same idea Bajor keeps its own military, but also has the option for some of its soldiers to transfer into Starfleet for those interested in serving on a starship, etc.
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Well, the DS9 relaunch also indicates that Ro (who is the new security chief) either rejoins SF or leaves the station. So, it seems that the entire Bajoran Militia will be absorbed into SF.
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It was mentioned in "Rapture" as well by AMD Whatley when he mentioned details that would have to be handled, including "the absorption of the Bajoran Militia into Starfleet."
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It would seem that this is the case with any race that joins the Federation. My guess would be that a planet's military force is merged with the Federation's when they become members since the Federation Starfleet is tasked with protecting its civilian population. Certainly there would be planetside Starfleet installations on these member worlds, not that ground based personell would do much good when dealing with orbital assaults.
In addition, member planets probably have their own police and security forces that are seperate from Starfleet. But I would think that any kind of spaceborne fleet would definitely be absorbed into the Federation Starfleet.
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quote:Originally posted by Topher: Well, the DS9 relaunch also indicates that Ro (who is the new security chief) either rejoins SF or leaves the station. So, it seems that the entire Bajoran Militia will be absorbed into SF.
..or at least the bulk of it that is involved with station operations. probably the Bajorans in the space service, or with the right qualifications will become Starfleet, but as I was saying before, it seems like it would take a while to indoctrinate them to the specifically SF service.. more than likely, it will take a few years of exchange programs, training, etc..
have we ever seen the case of a member world that had members in SF but still maintained its own navy/army units or any military force? i know that Vulcan still has an intelligence agency, as per "Gambit". and Ensign Mendon was given honorary rank as part of an exchange program that absobed him from the Benzite space fleet, where he was trained in a manner contrary to SF style.
possibly its the difference between the national guard and the rest of the military. the Bajoran militia will continue as a Bajor-based entity, but the Bajoran officers with offworld experience or the proper training and certification will become part of Starflet. This alse leaves the possibility that other Federation member worlds still maintain their own planetary guard as an independant entity from Starfleet, albeit all in a minor capacity.
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Also the Mars Defence Perimeter may not have necessarily been part of Starfleet.
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