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Or maybe the last vestiges of Nexus-Kirk will return to the Academy to inform Ensign Kirk that if he will get a few buddies together he has an "Idea" that will "train" them how to pass next week's Kobayashi Maru test.
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Are you just guessing at the registry or are you recommending that transporter accident calendar thing? Because I don't like either of those ideas. I can think of several ways this could be cool. Especially if the Academy was as sneaky and paranoid as that one episode where they made Wesley think people were dying. Like The Prisoner, with SPACE!!!
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Shatner as George Kirk. Obviously. (not George Samul "Sam", but their dad.)
I need to clean out my pants after seeing this. Not full of jizz, but of the loose squidgy shit that howitzered from my anus in horror over this whole idea.
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Oh great. Now I've got the theme tune in my head.
The Constitution class has been around for, like, a decade. We know Kirk served on the Farragut and the Republic. Written material has him commanding a Destroyer before the Enterprise... We know Spock served with Captain Pike for eleven years before Pike left the Enterprise nd Spock stayed. It was generally presumed that those eleven years were aboard the Enterprise, and that Pike was April's successor, and tht Kirk taking command was the first time he and Spock met.
Besides, anything dealing with the Academy had better have Gary Mitchell.
Also, Kirk being a Lieutenant before graduation is not a problem. We saw several Lieutenant, j.g.'s taking the Kobayashi Maru test in TWOK, all wearing cadet red. Bob Fletcher did that in reference to Kirk and Gary's exchange in "WNM...". Face it, Starfleet Academy does not have to work EXACTLY like a real world military academy.
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"The new film will be a prequel to the original Star Trek series, featuring younger versions of characters like James T. Kirk and Spock. The movie will chronicle events such as their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and their first mission into outer space." Doesn't tell us a whole lot more than the setting and some events that may take place. Despite the popular belife that "Starfleet Academy" is the stupidest idea ever, I belive that its just a setting. I don't see any real story details there, so what do we know? Yes, there is the potential for terrible, terrible stories, but we've already seen that those can strike anywhere. There's also the chance that it could be a good story.
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[I sure love all this "YEAH NO BRAGA MOVIE HOORAYS!" seeing as how the TNG films he had nothing to do with were miserable. Yeah, I sure hope we get another awesome Insurrection or Nemesis instead of that lame First Contact, or that. . . OK, I'm not sure what I think of Generations, but it is the second best TNG film.]
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I'm sorry but again, this idea sounds like absolute shit, not just your regular shit but nasty, smelly, runny shit.
JJ Abrahms etc and the rest of the Lost staff - again sounds like crap - they are busy with a little show at the moment. And if they do it'd have to be done in Lost's Haiatus - and that time period hardly gives even some ACTORS time to do another movie, let alone exec producers/writers/directors who are back at work earlier than the actors preparing the new season.
And if they do go with the Starfleet academy scenario - it is VERY obvious that McCoy and Scotty wouldn't have graduated at the same time as Kirk - neither would have Spock. Chekov and Uhura and Sulu different years as well. People get assigned to ships - they don't just stick together from the Academy.
Dumb, dumb, dumb idea.
If it goes ahead... it will... well they really can't get any lower (as someone said) than "These are the voyages".
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(Also, Abrams hasn't actually had much to do with Lost all season, or even for most of the first season, as he's been busy making ((coincidence!)) a movie for Paramount. Lindelof is a hands-on showrunner, though.)
Starfleet Academy doesn't really interest me as a setting either, since learning how to do something is intrinsically less interesting than actually doing it, but TSN wisely tells me that my concern is more suited to a TV series rather than the one-time events of a film. Still, I like Lost more than is socially acceptable, so I will be super excited about this long after all the grim casting details and bizarro plot points come out.
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I don't really know why everybody is so down on the Starfleet Academy idea. I doubt they're going to go all Scooby-Doo Kids or anything. I see it as an exciting opportunity to revisit the pre-TOS era and to potentially find out more about the Battle of Axanar and the subsequent peace mission in which Kirk participated.
There's nothing canonical that says Kirk and Spock weren't at the Academy together. As a matter of fact, they probably were. Spock apparently entered in 2249. (This can be extrapolated from a line in "Journey To Babel" [TOS], set in 2267, stating that Spock and Sarek had not spoken as father and son for eighteen years prior to the episode.) Michael and Denise Okuda's Star Trek Chronology assumes that Kirk entered a year later, in 2250, when he was seventeen. (This was also in the TOS writer's guide.)
The U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 herself is conjectured to have been launched in 2245 in most contemporary sources, but this is rather open to reinterpretation. Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry's The Making Of Star Trek puts her commissioning (or at least the introduction of her class of vessels) even earlier, circa 2228. By 2254 she was under Pike's command and Spock was serving aboard her as science officer. In any case, she was definitely around during this time period.
Gary Mitchell and Kirk were not students at the Academy during the same timeframe. Kirk was his instructor circa 2259, after Kirk had graduated and gone on to serve aboard the U.S.S. Farragut.
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MMOM: Not that I don't agree with everything you've stated (I do), but do you seriously believe J.J. Abrams or whatever the hell his name is will give two shits about any of that? Or Paramount? They want to make a movie that will make a lot of money. They're not going to care about continuity.
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