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AndrewR
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Yeah, Mojo - I've never EVER seen a "good enough" fan costume - although some do GREAT jobs. Even the 'models' that model the purchaseable uniforms don't look right.

I'd get out those 'people' computer programmes first... what's it called "Poser" or something...

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Sheesh, offer some people a fun opportunity and all I get is negativity! Where is the love?

Of course I'm well aware that most fan costumes suck. But, then again, you guys are commenting beore you even know what my planned usage is, so bite me :-)

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So you are going to do a scene where the bodies of weird 21st century youngsters called "Trekkies" are discovered aboard a cryostasis satellite of the type we saw in "The Neutral Zone"? [Razz]

Or the bloody aftermath of a pitiful attempt by smooth-headed Klingons to infiltrate Starfleet Command, poorly disguised as Starfleet officers? [Razz]

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I saw a guy at a convention once, in a home-made silk, light blue tos uniform and those BIG Spock ears - you know the ones the go over the ENTIRE ear like the nerdy kid in Martin's "Refuge of the Damned" on the Simpsons ;o) Didn't look good. *shiver* ;o)

Maybe people could do a REALLY good job, but not your usual 'Trill' or 'Bajoran' or 'Klingon' - lets get some of those Aliens from TMP, TVH and TFF out ;o) How about photographing action figures!?! ;o)

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Most fan uniforms are meticulously researched (or devised, because many come up with their own uniform schemes) but the main problems lie in the fitting of the clothing. The guys modeling the shirts look awful because they are just really expensive halloween costumes. If someone took in the waist a little, or made sure the sleeves werent a foot too long you might be able to work with it.

I am saying all this in denial of my knowledge of the second problem with fan costuming, the physique of the fan i question. I can offer no solution. (Except of course mine, which was stop eating fast food and move around a little and lost me 30 pounds or so, to where i can successfully disguise myself as a 'normal' person.. but that is kind of long term)

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Mark Nguyen
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Yeah, one of the things about the mass-production costumes is that they're essentially *shirts*. This was sorta okay for the TOS uniforms, but for everythign in the TNG era this just didn't make sense anymore. Half of them don't have shoulder pads, and the other half tend to have the epaulets that are too pointed.

Every fan gets an "E" for effort, though. [Smile]

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Mojo, you mentioned Andy Probert giving you the plans for the ?scorpion? work bee and something else a hopper or something? Is there any plan for you to do that cool looking shuttle with the door at the front? There are also a few other auxillary craft that would be interesting to see, there was the tiny little shuttle in Spacedock that we saw in "11001001" [TNG]

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Time to liven this thread up!

I'm working on rough drafts of the images for the book, and I spent a little too much time on this one... but be kind - it's still rough. I just thought I'd share :-)

As always, leave it here - no sending it around!


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Mark Nguyen
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Man, that's sweet. Looks way more detailed than the cheapo McKinley model they used in the show (and no offense to the original model builder of course, but the McKinley model really wasn't all that great - especially with the GCS model sitting under it!).

Well done, Mojo!

Mark

[ January 30, 2002, 00:57: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]

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Great work Mojo! I always liked this type of spacedock more than the latticeworks one, like the one they used for NCC 1701 in st tmp.
Say Mojo, is that a launch-bay up in front?

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Very nice, Mojo. One small nitpick - the bussard collector on the Galaxy doesn't look quite right somehow. It's the only thing that still looks "fake" (obviously CGIed). Otherwise, I'm impressed!

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[Eek!]

I love the detail on that thing! And I agree, I've always liked the McKinley Station design more than the old TMP drydocks -- they look much more interesting.

Very nice. If this is what you call a "rough draft," I'm going to have to be very careful when I finally get to reading "Unseen Frontier." Otherwise, I'll have a heart attack! [Wink]

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