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Thus telling us that TOS-era photorp installations are 500 metric tons, for the Hermes ("Hermeses?" "Hermii?") are sans.
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The Hermes has only one lower phaser emplacement and no torpedo launchers, while the Saladin has lower torpedo and forward phasers, and also an upper torpedo bay and port/starboard phaser banks
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I've never agreed with that myself.. various of the later fandom that evolved from Franz' TM depict many other design differences to justify the separate class name... the closest ST universe parallel is the Miranda/Soyuz classes
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Just got Andy Probert's design for a Starfleet Hopper. He sent me a bunch of sketches of the Sphinx in various configurations - one with an extended bed and one with an extended bed and a large... ummm... apartment on the back.
Definitely a Hopper!
I'm so excited I'm wetting myself! It's far better than the fan designs. Similar, but much more graceful and believeable.
AND YOU'LL GET TO SEE IT ALL IN STAR TREK: THE UNSEEN FRONTIER!!
Actually, you'll get to see the Sphinx model ahead of time in an upcoming Star Trek Magazine, but in the book you'll get to see it in action - most likely cleaning up some wreckage at Wolf 359.
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I wonder, does Andy Probert have any sketches of what he thought the 'underslung' Ferengi ship on the Marauder looked like... It was sorta like a Marauder's own aerowing...
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quote:Originally posted by Mojo: WOO-HOO! THIS ROCKS!
Just got Andy Probert's design for a Starfleet Hopper. He sent me a bunch of sketches of the Sphinx in various configurations - one with an extended bed and one with an extended bed and a large... ummm... apartment on the back.
Definitely a Hopper!
I'm so excited I'm wetting myself! It's far better than the fan designs. Similar, but much more graceful and believeable.
AND YOU'LL GET TO SEE IT ALL IN STAR TREK: THE UNSEEN FRONTIER!!
Actually, you'll get to see the Sphinx model ahead of time in an upcoming Star Trek Magazine, but in the book you'll get to see it in action - most likely cleaning up some wreckage at Wolf 359.
Then going out for cokes.
Mojo
Oh Oh! Mojo, I wanna see! I'd like to know how close I got! since I did base it on Probert's wonderful sphinx and all.
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Mark... yeah I thought about that a while ago - your post jogged my memory - I don't think it would be too far-fetched... Something that I reckon they'd do.
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quote:Originally posted by Mojo: WOO-HOO! THIS ROCKS!
Just got Andy Probert's design for a Starfleet Hopper. ... It's far better than the fan designs. Similar, but much more graceful and believeable.
One would hope so, given Mr. Probert has an Industrial Design background that most fans lack.
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Mojo: Sorry to derail the thread again, but back to your comment on mapping. I spent the afternoon procrastinating and was a little surprised to find out that Geoffrey Mandel, scenic artist from ENTERPRISE and VOYAGER, and apparently also a legendary warrior of the fan-publication days of the seventies, is prepping the first "official" Trek mapbook for release from Pocket as well. (Psi Phi's listing, Mandel's website). One assumes these will be preeety diagrams done in the same 3D style as the various astrometrics displays.
I'm surprised on two levels: Firstly, that there has been zero buzz on this subject online from the tech-heads. And secondly, that Margaret Clark hasn't got you two sticking your heads together so any small little sidebar maps in UF could be pulled from Mandel's work. At the very least, I'm surprised that Pocket isn't asking that the two books be somewhat consistent with one another, especially since they look to be released at around the same time.
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This map book sounds like one BIG BAD IDEA. Can they map in 3d!?! Can they make heads or tales of what we have been doing 'round these parts for the best part of 6 years!?! The Cartography page is as thorough as you're going to get - and even THAT has a heap of problems trying to dig through all the canonical problems. Margret Clark just wan't more money out of us. I'll be buying Unseen Frontier WAY before (if ever) I by that map book. Best Map book out there (apart from atlases of the REAL world) is Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle Earth. A BRILLIANT publication.
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I'd like to hear more about this map book, and perhaps see a sampler, before I go judging anything. *Any* Trek map book will not be perfect, but given the credits behind this one we may be plesantly surprised. Until I see evience to the contrary, I'll stay optimistic.
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since I did base it on Probert's wonderful sphinx and all. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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