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I'm not confusing anything.. you keep thinking im talking about your episode. In Pathfinder, Barclay worked in the building where he was running the holo-Voyager, and he had to run away from the security dudes Cmdr Hawkins sent after him to activate the MIDAS array. when they showed an exterior shot, it was a big office building with the Starfleet logo built into it. A shuttle flew by, and it didnt look like the speedboat. seemed type 6 to me
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It was a type-6 that flew past Starfleet Communications HQ (in Hong Kong?, I heard somewhere that is where the real building is) The type-9 was the one that took Barclay to Jupiter Station.
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We have had a type 6 on Voyager. It was the Sacajawea. I think the episode was Coda, but I'm not sure. Other than that the only other time we saw a type 6 was the NCC-71325 shuttle from the pilot episode (where some say it was also labeled as NCC-74656) and an episode where Tuvok crash landed on a planet where the people grew backwards. They used the type 6 shuttle set (we saw the exterior with the type 6 shuttle nacelles), but I think it was supposed to be a type 8 shuttle.
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There was a type 6 in "Demon" as well - which is a bit surprising, since the scenes didn't really call for a full-sized prop, so they could have used the type 8 model there.
And yes, every time they needed a full-sized crashed shuttle, they of course used the type 6 prop. I haven't seen "Coda", but in "Innocence" (the one with Tuvok and the backward-aging "kids") there was no pretense that the shuttle would be type 8.
I also think that "Raven" had a series of scenes where a shuttle magically transformed between types, but that's another one I haven't seen.
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Thanks for the correction. Most of "Coda" was a dream sequence anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter that much... "Parallax" AFAIK only used the type 8 model, as there was no need there for a full-sized prop. Of course, the cockpit was type 6, but that doesn't count sicne there was no type 8 cockpit. But I think that towards the later seasons, the type 9/12/whatever interior was sometimes used for type 8 shuttles as well... ("Alice" would be the final watershed, since after that there wouldn't BE a type 6 cockpit any more!)
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What was the name of the episode where Neelix died and realized there's no life after death? I the end, he planned to commit suicide.
Whatever it is, it showed the type 6 shuttle for the last time. I know it because I watched the episode two hours ago. The interior was still type 8-diagrams and everything, but the exterior shots inside the nebula where they wanted to collect protomatter showed a type 6, definitely. And it was CGI (the 'used' texture made it look dirty and old, damn fine work, BTW). It had the strange naming scheme only Voyager used so far (below the cockpit window, we usually had only the name in TNG-times. Voyager established the name/number/mothership scheme they use for this one, too.) and it definitely had a name. Maybe this one was supposed to represent the shuttle that brought Stadi and Paris to the ship in 'Caretaker'? At least one this becomes more evident with this new 'old' appearance: the shuttle replicator was obviously only used to replicate the type 9-shuttles. Soon after they had used some of them we never saw them again (season 2/3). Maybe this one was just a reserve.
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An addendum to this thread: Several pages ago Shik said the Rio Grande was destroyed, early on in DS9...
Well he was right.. in the holosimulation of a Jem'Hadar attack in the beginning of "The Search," i believe the Rio Grande was destroyed.
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I have the episode on tape, and I don't recall anyone mentioning a destroyed runabout during the holosimulation or even one happening. In the simulation, Sisko, Dax, O'Brien, and Bashir take the Rio Grande against orders to destroy the wormhole and do so, but soon afterwards are awaken by the female Founder on Odo's order. The Rio Grande was never destroyed.
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Yes Voyager had several Type 6 shuttles, especially during Raven where Seven's shuttle morphed from a Type 6 to a Type 8.
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it always stuck in my head that Shik said that without offering any explanation..
BTW, in the opening of the show there was a holosuite simulation of Kira and O'Brien simulating an attack on the station to see how they would fare against the Jemhadar. Im not talking about the Vorta simulation in part II. I dont have the tape, but the novelization follows it word for word (in that part anyway) so im assuming the line from the book is also a line from the show, where O'Brien says the Rio Grande has been destroyed (offscreen, which is why you wouldnt have seen it). if it wasnt there, then sue me
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No, the line wasn't there in the aired episode, so the Rio Grande still wasn't destroyed. Won't sue you though...would be a waste of time, effort, and money.
Anyway, seeing as these are only simulations, it doesn't matter much with continuity.
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IIRC it was the Rio Grande that crash landed in "The Ascent". But since Quark and Odo survived the crash, I always assumed the runabout was salvageable.
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