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Originally posted by AndrewR:
Did Gene ever comment on the FASA stuff?

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And is there a side view of that Ptolemy Class - from the top it looks like a TOS Miranda!!

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AND just something else - at your site Spike, under the official missing list that was on DS9 and in the DS9 Companion - how come there is a 'Nemesis' listing there - the reUSE it for Nemesis!?! I mean... guh!

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No, this Nemesis has nothing to do with the movie. It's the nickname of the person who sent me this list.

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So, is the Hermes visible on the screen?

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Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
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Yes, the Hermes is visible in TWOK. You can tell that it's distinct from the Saladin because of the arrows drawn to the dorsal saucer phaser banks. (Which the Saladin doesn't have.)

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Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
Yes, the Hermes is visible in TWOK. You can tell that it's distinct from the Saladin because of the arrows drawn to the dorsal saucer phaser banks. (Which the Saladin doesn't have.)

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Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
Yes, the Hermes is visible in TWOK. You can tell that it's distinct from the Saladin because of the arrows drawn to the dorsal saucer phaser banks. (Which the Saladin doesn't have.)

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The Saladin does have dorsal phaser banks and they are labelled in the Technical Manual.

The Hermes does not have dorsal phaser banks and so does not have any label for them in the Technical Manual.

So did you mean to say that the Hermes is shown in TWOK because the arrow is not visible?

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Yes, that's what I meant. I just flip-flopped the names...

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Originally posted by Starship Millennium:
…the Bozeman screencap as well as the studio model pics of the Firebrand and Princeton look amazingly like the ones I made. Not that I'm keeping track or anything. And under the Trinculo entry, the episode "Sacrifice of Angels" is called "Sacrifice of Angles." And I don't totally agree with including the retouched images of the Constitutions from the Encyclopedia, but to each his own, I guess.

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Originally posted by AndrewR:
So you are going with the '5xxxx' registry for the Prometheus?

Wasn't it corrected by Okuda somewhere?

If that is corrected - I wasn the Budapest, Appalacia and the Yeager corrected too. They are ALL 7xxxx's not 5's 6's and 8's.

If they are old ships that have been refit that extensively - why haven't we seen other 4's 5's and 6's upgraded like that!?!

Maybe the Sovereign is really and upgraded Excelsior!?! Not.

The (re)appearance of double-secondary hulls. Forward shuttlebays, not to mention many Defiant, Galaxy, Intrepid and Sovereign-esque features makes me think these are newer ships - post Galaxy.

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"NAR-25820
Sydney
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"

What was this!?! The orbital shuttle!?! I don't believe that this was a Sydney class. The Sydney class is quite large.

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Nash could be named after John Nash who was depicted in "A Beautiful Mind".

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Canberra and 'old Parliament House' was opened in 1921 (I think)... from 1901 Parliament wasn't held in Sydney as most would think (As it is the largest city) but in Melbourne.

Canberra means 'meeting place' or something like that in that area's local Aboriginal language.

Canberra is a planned city there was a competition and it was one by Walter Burley Griffin.

Sydney was the first founded city (and first permanent white settlement - but some think that Cooktown in Far North Queensland might be - as that is where he, his crew and the Endeavour landed and stayed for several weeks->months repairing their ship which had been breached? by the coral of the Great Barrier Reef. He took the time to navigate out of the coral reefs.

The second White settlement after Sydney was Hobart in southern Tasmania which was called Van Dieman's land then (It is the captial of Tasmania). George Town (or mainly) Launceston in Northern Tasmania was the third White settlement. Launceston actually had a sewer system before such cities as Paris!! (I was walking around Launceston once and walked down an old cobblestone alleyway that had a lot of interesting information).

I think the order then was

Melbourne (now Capital of Victoria)
Brisbane (Named after New South Wales Governer Thomas Brisbane (now Captial of Queensland)
Adelaide (Named After Queen Adelaide)
(now Capital of South Australia and the first ((I think) free settlement town)
Perth (now Capital of Western Australia)
Darwin (Named after Charles Darwin - the S.S. Beagle stopped here) (Captial of the Northern Territory
and Canberra capital of the A.C.T. and Australia and it's territories.

Australia was back before it was discovered "Terra Australis" (Unknown Southern Land) Explorers thought that there out to be a large continent in the Southern hemisphere to match the large continent of Eurasia in the Northern Hemisphere!)

Then named New Holland by Dutch Explorers that skirted and charted parts of the west coast, the southern tips of WA and Tasmania and the west coast of Cape York Pennisula. Most were blown off course trying to reach the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) or the Spice Islands. They found the coasts and assumed the land, barren and inhospitable.

Then in 1770 by way of New Zealand, Captain James T. Cook discovered the Eastern Coast of Australia and Charted it, landed and claimed it in the name of the British Empire.

At this time it was called New South Wales (all of it) Except Tasmania which was called Van Deiman's land.

Then the eastern part was all New South Wales (except Tas) the middle South Australia and the West, Western Australia.

Then gradually States were formed

Tasmania, Victoria, Queensland and New South Wales.

The Northern Territory was then formed from the northern half of South Australia and in the early twentieth century the Australian Captial Territory was formed.

Australia has the largest area of ocean under it's administration. Australia has the largest area of Antarctica under it's administration.

Some of it's territories include Heard Is. MacQuarrie Island (both uninhabited except for birds/penguins and elephant seas - oh and a few research scientists). Also under it's administration is Lord Howe Island. Norfolk Island (to an extent) (of the Mutiny on the Bounty fame). The Cocos (Keeling Islands) and Christmas Island.

It is the only continent to have one country.
It is the second largest island (the largest being Greenland)
It has the largest sand island (Fraser Island)
It unfortunately has the greatest extinction rate of Fauna (and Flora?)
It is the driest continent (yet moronic arsonist and pyromaniacs continue to light bushfires that destroy homes and kill people).
It is very large and it's like 1500km between Brisbane and Sydney.
It has some of the oldest living extant animals (like the Lung Fish)

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AHHH!!!!!!!!! TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SENSORY OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, seriously. Thanks for the info. Sorry about getting your capital wrong. No offense.

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Originally posted by Dr. Phlox:
And in the entry for the Danube class U.S.S. Shenandoah it says the ship was "attacked by the Jem’Hadar and destroyed." Well, we don't really know if it was destroyed, it might've just been abandoned, they sorta forgot about it after Jake and Nog were beamed to the Valiant. Since the rest of your list is strictly canon, it might be a good idea to mention that no one said what happened to the ship in the episode, but you presume it was destroyed.

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It's more likely that the Odyssey was (more) named after one of Homer's epics than the command module of Apollo 13.

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Originally posted by Masao:
A few nits/comments:
1. Princeton is in New Jersey, not Pennsylvania!
2. You should mention the Russian battleship Potemkin rather than or inaddition to the General. Probably better known because of the movie.
3. For Sequoia, I'd mention the guy who developed the Cherokee script, for whom the treee was named.
4. Spector might be named for Phil Spector, the famous record producer.
5. In War of the Worlds, "Thunder Child" is two words.
6. Re: Lollipop http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/Shirley/goodship-lyrics.htm

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1. D’oh!
2. (along with number one) Done.
3. Wow, I had no knowledge of this man. Thanks a lot! Done.
4. I like Pym’s idea better…
5. I think the record has shown that the accepted spelling for the Trek ship (though it was definitely supposed to be a reference to Wells’ work) is Thunderchild.
6. OMG! I saw this film as a little kid and totally forgot! Done.

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Originally posted by Solommagnus de Pym:
Spector could be in reference to Gaming Guru Warren Spector. Given the source of the name, perhaps it most likely is.

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I agree. Do you know if Spector’s credits include any Trek games?


Thanks for the input, everyone.
-MMoM

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