quote:Considering that another vessel on those displays was the U.S.S. Silversides
But what does that have to do with the Sentinel?
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The fact that our simian friend here referenced the WWII U.S.S. Sentinel on his page, and Masao posited an s/f literary origin for the name instead...
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I think he is suggesting they are both ships of the US Navy, and Starfleet has a tradition of naming ships after US Navy ships. Something like that I guess.
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quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: The fact that our simian friend here referenced the WWII U.S.S. Sentinel on his page, and Masao posited an s/f literary origin for the name instead...
That's not what I meant. He wrote "another vessel on those displays" but the Sentinel didn't appear on a display. The Silversides is from TNG Eye of the Beholder and the Sentinel from DS9 Treachery, Faith And The Great River.
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quote:Originally posted by Dat: Mim, you've got to think before you speak.
Sound advice.
Forgive my continued scatter-brained-ness...
To state things perfectly clearly and in accurate terms: I still believe the Sentinel to have been named for the line of noted naval vessels rather than for the Clarke story. My reason for this is primarily because of the abundance of other similarly-named Starfleet ships, and secondarily because I think it makes more sense. (I've got a good sense of priorities, don't I? )
-Added all the correct information from the Starfleet Operations display and added the pics furnished by Siegfried and SoundEffect. This meant updating the entry of every ship on the list. I'd still like to know more precisely when that graphic first started showing up. -Added some new links in the Merrimac (final spelling) entry and tried to make the name issue a bit more clear in the annotations. -I finally rlented on the Ahwahnee issue. The "Redemption" PADD graphic that SE discovered has convinced me. I'm still waiting to hear from Okuda on why he thought the reg needed to be changed, though. -Consequently, I updated the Endeavour entry as well. -Updated the Introduction page, replacing the Nemesis entery in the explanatory notes with one on scripts and deleted scenes. -Updated the Condensed shiplist.
There may be a few other trivial things that I can't think of at the moment. I'll try to start work on the Federation listings again this week.
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Do the headers at the top of every page (and the directory at the bottom) appear to you guys in the proper font of Microgramma Bold Extended? I was looking at the page from another computer and it was all in Times New Roman. Ick.
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It's in Microgramma on my computer, but of course I've got that font loaded. I suspect if the computer doesn't have it loaded, it'll just use times or something else.
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Yes, that's how web pages work. Pages don't embed the fonts used, so if a page calls for a certain font and a computer that's loading up the page doesn't have the font, the browser's default font will be used. It's exactly how word processing programs work. That's why on some pages, it will tell you that it looks better with a certain font loaded on your computer and so provides a link to download the font if you don't have it. Vorlon used to do that on his now long-defunct website.
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I've added a note and a link to a TrueType version of the font to the intro page.
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BTW, most courses of net-etiquette I have learned consider it 'rude' to ask someone to download a font to view your page.. the best instructors in web design I've learned from have stated that the ideal webpage is the one that is viewable to the highest number of people without said people having to go through any trouble to view the page.
that being said, i think the best solution is to not only offer the font, but also alter the FONT tags to include an alternate (ugh.. non-Times) font just in case they don't want to get your font.. on my page, there are some places where I use Arial Narrow, but I recognize that most people with pre-2000 OSs might not have it, and still more people might be running old Macs that call Arial by the name Helvetica.. so a lot of my tags read FONT FACE="Arial Narrow,Arial,Helvetica".. that way, if they don't have the preferred font, it will try a couple others. IF I were you i would code the tag to use the preferred font first, then pick a backup font which people are guaranteed to have, that would be your second choice.
also keep in mind that many fonts don't resize well for use as text, when they are specifically geared towards being a header font:
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As an addition to what Captain Mike suggested, I'd put the font name "Eurostar Black Extended" in the tag... it's the same exact font, and I had it preinstalled on both my Windows ME and Windows XP computers. That way, at least some people won't have to have multiple copies of a font floating around on their computer.
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Somewhere in the web I read NCC-76220 for the Steamrunner.
I made my own version of this strange registry. The Steamrunners are modern ship with got "ancient", never used registries (maybe construction has been cancelled) just to fill a few holes in the registries (like the Appalachia 52136 and the (fan-fiction) Eagles Wrath 52137).
The 5XXXX Prometheus has been classified as a Steamrunner Cruiser and therefore received a never used registry. Since the Prometheus was a very secret project Starfleet would never make it official in its shiplist as a experimental high tech battlechip.
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