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Careful, we don't want to have him cowering in a corner to soon, heh heh.
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This is my first time here and I would like to add a few things. A must have source of reference are the "Starlog Photo Guidebooks: Special Effects, Vol. 2 & Vol. 5"
Vol.2 has a short article at the end about the Enterprise designed for ST:TMP. It contains numerous preproduction drawings as well as a cross-section of the secondary hull by Andy Probert showing 5 decks in the dorsal & 7 decks in the hull with what looks like room for an additional deck under the botanical garden.
Vol.5 contains a long article written by Andy himself. He descibes his designs for ST:TMP and for ST:TNG. It also contains many preproduction sketches & drawings. Several of which I've never seen anywhere else. One illustration shows Andy's version of what the Rec Room could have looked to fit the contours of the saucer & its concave lower section. I tend to like this version better than the filmed one. Another drawing shows a side view of the saucer, dorsal, & part of the secondary hull. Two interesting things about this is that, one, it depicts the ship prior to having the self-illuminating lights designed into it, and two, he shows the primary hull divided into 8 decks.(Bridge, VIP housing, 2 decks in the upward slope, 2 decks in the rim, & 2 decks in the downward slope). One other interesting item is about the lifeboats for the Refit Enterprise In the text he describes his designs for the Enterprise-D. He states ..."I added a series of visible lifeboat covers (as opposed to graphic markings on the movie Enterprise} to the ship which alluded to the ship's capacity of 3,500."... Thus the hatches along the outer edge are the personnel hatches & the numerous ones just in from those are the lifeboat covers he alludes to.
One last item is the cargo deck/shuttle bay. In the book "The Art of Star Trek" on pages 166 & 167 are two photos/matte paintings of these areas. Just forward of the elevators and above the lower cargo pod alcoves is a large rectangular opening. If you look to either side of this you can see what appears to be segmented door sections, and along the lower edge what looks like door tracks. This, it seems, would allow the cargo deck to be isolated from the shuttle bay.
I hope this wasn't to long winded. Just my two cents worth based on some of my research. Hope it helps.
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Welcome "goose814". Thanks for the info on the "Starlog" issues. I need to write this issue numbers down and add them to the list of info I want to have in my reference library!
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i want to thank "Griffworks" for showing me how funny it is when you put another members name in quotations, because i imagine you doing the "finger quotations" thing when you are talking.. i really "appreciate" it..
any chance of anyone gettin' scans of this for us?
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heh, you should see him at star trek cons, trying to do finger excersizes while meeting people.
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quote:Originally posted by TheWoozle: Shane, you mentioned that MSG was trimmed by 20-something pages, by the publishers. Any chance of finding out what tidbits where cut?
The trimming of the page count occurred while the book was in the early stages, before much of it was completed. Some drawings (such as the boarding ramp section) had been done, but many other items existed only on the page breakdown outline.
As I recall, among the items cut were some TMP uniforms, the thruster suit, the TMP wrist communicator and tricorder, a complete set of fold-out deck plans (I was about halfway done with those), Decks 1-3 exterior elevations, an officer's lounge elevation, a turbolift interior display diagram, a main engineering elevation, and hangar bay elevation and plan views.
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quote:Originally posted by thelastguardian: As I recall, among the items cut were some TMP uniforms, the thruster suit, the TMP wrist communicator and tricorder, a complete set of fold-out deck plans (I was about halfway done with those), Decks 1-3 exterior elevations, an officer's lounge elevation, a turbolift interior display diagram, a main engineering elevation, and hangar bay elevation and plan views.
As to the turbolift interior display diagram, were you privy to the diagram seen in the turbolift in TMP?
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Sure do wish that others tuff had been done. Shane Johnson deck plans would be OOBER!
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quote:Originally posted by Harry: OOBER as in the German word �ber, which means something like THE BEST in this context.
< Franz Liebkind>
Deutschland, Deutschland, �ber alles!
< /Franz Liebkind>
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