quote:Originally posted by Harry: Trivia: She was supposed to be a Romulan in the early drafts.
And where did you hear/read this?
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It seems like the writers of the movies were always trying to stick Romulan connections in that never made it. Wasn't either Saavik or Valeris supposed to be half-Romulan at some point?
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Who cares. She was really hot.
Very hot when that freighter was blown up.
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quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: It seems like the writers of the movies were always trying to stick Romulan connections in that never made it. Wasn't either Saavik or Valeris supposed to be half-Romulan at some point?
Saavik was Half-Romulan in the script for TWoK.
Fortunately they got rid of that reference because it wouldn't have made a lot of sense unless Saavik was less then 19 years old and breezed through the Academy program given that "Balance of Terror" was only 19 years before "TWoK" and no Romulans and Vulcans had had contact before that.
I suppose it could be possible that one of Saavik's parents was a Romulan spy on Vulcan and revealed their true identity after the events of Balance of Terror, perhaps if he or she got caught.
Or a Vulcan freighter Captain near the Nuetral Zone got it on with a person who they thought was Vulcan but was actually Romulan and never said so until later.
Either way, the alternative of her just being Vulcan is better.
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Or all Vulcans (except Dr. selar) are (for some reason) more emotional than their male counterparts (explaining Savik and T'Pol at least).
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T'pau was pretty emotionless. Kinda wooden too, really. But between her and Selar, those two have like ten minutes of screen time. T'Pol, Saavik, oldvulcanambassadorchick, and anyone with more than a dozen lines tend to be pretty emotional, that's true.
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quote:Originally posted by Bond, James Bond:
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: It seems like the writers of the movies were always trying to stick Romulan connections in that never made it. Wasn't either Saavik or Valeris supposed to be half-Romulan at some point?
Saavik was Half-Romulan in the script for TWoK.
Fortunately they got rid of that reference because it wouldn't have made a lot of sense unless Saavik was less then 19 years old and breezed through the Academy program given that "Balance of Terror" was only 19 years before "TWoK" and no Romulans and Vulcans had had contact before that.
I suppose it could be possible that one of Saavik's parents was a Romulan spy on Vulcan and revealed their true identity after the events of Balance of Terror, perhaps if he or she got caught.
Or a Vulcan freighter Captain near the Nuetral Zone got it on with a person who they thought was Vulcan but was actually Romulan and never said so until later.
Either way, the alternative of her just being Vulcan is better.
i suggest you guys read "The Pandora Principle" by Carolyn Clowes.. its one of the 80s novels, designed to help bridge the gap between TMP and TWOK, and also give the backstory on Saavik.
although the novel isnt canon, i find it to be one of the better installments Pocket Books has to offer of their hundreds of shittier titles, this novel actually 'feels' like the movie Trek universe. many sources have abided by the story of Saavik's early life presented in this book, including two separate stories from rival comic publishers DC and Marvel.
btw, without spoilers, if you dont feel like reading, Saavik is the product of the rape of a captured Vulcan scientist by a Romulan soldier at an abandoned colony. (this occurred before Balance of Terror) Spock helped to educate saavik in the vulcan way of life before she became a ward of boarding schools and the Academy. the book occurs when she is a freshman, and is the point when Nogurafinally weasels Kirk off the bridge and into the desk position he holds at the openng of TWOK
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quote:Originally posted by Captain Mike XLVII: an Oberth upper hull with no pylons or additions would be a Darwin-class scout from the SotSF/Recognition Chart milieu..
Didn't we work out in a thread from Flare past that the first three shillohettes on that chart are the Enterprise-ringship broken into three sections to make three new ships.
I think the Ariadne was the 'ring' part. Lombardy? the 'connecting neck/stick' and the first one the 'forward habitable section'.
the three ships that looked like a broken down ring ship were the Leonardo, Ariadne and the Frobisher. i want to see an action sequence with those three ships as models forming up into a ship Voltron style.
in order to lessen your confusion the artists used a markedly different picture to represent the Darwin, gave it a different name and placed it on a separate section of the chart. perhaps i should do an article.
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But between her and Selar, those two have like ten minutes of screen time. T'Pol, Saavik, oldvulcanambassadorchick, and anyone with more than a dozen lines tend to be pretty emotional, that's true.
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