Okay, so he was describing what it was. That doesn't make it a literal translation.
I think it was intended to be, but even if it wasn't, there's still no indication that the term applies to procedures other than the one portrayed in that film. Even if it was just a description, that description doesn't fit what we saw in "Awakening."
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Which makes sense, being that they are vegetarians and all....
Eggs are vegetables.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: London is just a regional capital now?
Uh, did I say "now", or did just you assume it?
Er, okay, when was it just a regional capital?
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Left would become right, dogs would become cats, cats would become Kzin and Tim would become skinny.
But the middle-east would still be figinting over nothing in particular.
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quote:Originally posted by Topher: I presume that FG means when all of Earth is a unified government, current country capitals would become regional capitals. Or something.
Right. Er, did that happen then? Do we know that Cairo isn't actually the capital of the entire planet?
For that matter, why would there be a planet capital? Countries still seem to exist in Star Trek, so presumably their capitals too. Has there ever been a reference to a planet having a single capital city?
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I don't think we've established an Earth capital city, but it figures there would be some equivalent to a world government body somewhere on the planet in the 22nd Century. Possibly San Francisco, where the Vulcan embassy is located (though that doesn't say much; we'll have a Japanese consulate here in Calgary soon).
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Does a planet even need a capital city? Starfleet is in San Fransisco, the presidential office is in Paris, the Federation council chamber is in Tokyo (at least according to the DS9TM, IIRC). Earth may be the capital of the Federation, but since there are no different nations on this planet anymore, ther'd be no need for a capital city. Especially since you can use a transporter to go everywhere on the planet in a matter of seconds, cities are probably "outdated" by the 24th century.
IF mot, maybe ShirKahr is just the capital because it's one of the oldest cities on Vulcan? I doubt Vulcans would choose the biggest or most beautiful city to be their capital. Maybe they chose ShirKahr because it has some historical meaning to them.
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Mabye they just kept ShirKahr the capital because it was least damaged by their nuclear exchanges and moving all their preserved governmental offices would have been illogical.
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Or maybe there's no reason to continue to come up with rationalizations as to why ShirKahr is the capital, because it isn't.
Seriously, now, when did anyone (including myself) ever say that ShirKahr couldn't be the capital? All I recall being said is that there hasn't ever been any evidence that it was and that we shouldn't assume that.
And BTW, the Federation Council Chambers are in Marin, as per ST4. (Of course, they might easily have other chambers in other locations, perhaps not even limited to Earth.) And Paris is the capital. (The definition of capital being the location where the head of government, in this case the President, holds office.)
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Oh, FFS, I wish I hadn't mentioned ShirKar. Look, there's no reason it has to be the capital, and there's no point in discussing it any further.
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Oh, FFS, I wish I hadn't mentioned ShirKar. Look, there's no reason it has to be the capital, and there's no point in discussing it any further.
SPOCK: I believe I just said that, Captain.
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Your all thinking like Humans... Who says Vulcan even HAS a capitol? I get the impression that the whole plnet was unified, 1500 years ago... With a high level of communication and travel technology they probobly just put government offices in the largest city, or near the main space port. Who knows, the Vulcan High Council (or whatever) might even just meet wherever it's nice at that time of year.
On the other tentacle, ShirKahr IS apperently an ancient city with cultural ties to Surak....
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