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Timo
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I think the whole point of this exercise was to point out that whatever the ENT writers say or fail to say about Shi(r)Ka(h)r, it will be *perfectly consistent* since we currently know nothing about the issue...

So, we're waiting.

And while we're waiting, can we go through our archives and see if there ever has been something called "planetary capital" in canon Trek? I think there were references to capitals on both Bajor and Cardassia (as in, "the troops are approaching the capital, sir!"), yet a general failure to actually give names to these capitals.

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Searching the scripts, I can find no names for capitals. Although the Bajoran Capital is sometimes written with.. capitals, so it might simply be called Capital.

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Or the Bajoran equivalent of capital anyway [Wink]

Anyway... the city looked cool

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov:
Earth may be the capital of the Federation, but since there are no different nations on this planet anymore, ther'd be no need for a capital city.

There are no independently goverened nations, but countries still exist as unqie entities even two hundred years after this. Not only do they mention the names of the places, but Americans still have American accents, the Irish haev Irish accents, and the French sound...RSC English, for some reason.

Paris, Washington DC, Berlin, Moscow etc are probably still refered to as the coutry capitals, even if it's just a historical thing.

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When they talk about the 'main planet' of a system - i.e. Cardassia Prime - I am assuming it IS the main planet... i.e. "prime importance" - or is it the '1st' planet - closest to the star? Or is it a prime-number!! [Big Grin]

Might the capital be 'whatever-prime'?

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PsyLiam
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The chances of those alien races having their home planet be closest to the sun isn't great, so I go with "Prime".

They couldn't call the capital "whatever-prime" though, as the main planet of the Cardassian Empire is called Cardassia, so the capital city would be called "Cardassia-Prime", and that's also used as a name for the planet. So, no.

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You know, I seem to remember Dukat or someone making reference to a Cardassia ____ once or twice.

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Some planets were named as if they lay in the Cardassian system. At least Cardassia IV was a class M planet where Bajoran prisoners did some manual mining, and apparently was NOT the same as Cardassia Prime. And Cardassia Prime is indeed equated with Cardassia I in the DS9 Tech Manual, if not anywhere else. Coincidence? Or proof that Prime isn't the word used for "capital worlds" after all? We don't hear of other "Prime" worlds, now do we?

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Earth Prime. But then, didn't it get conquored by Kromags?

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Timo
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No, Cromags took Giedi Prime and devolved into the Harkonnen. And Earth Prime wasn't deemed hot enough, so they changed it to Venus Prime and put the chick on the cover.

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Isn't the Kligon capital simply and unoriginally known as the "First City"?

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Do we even know if the Klingons still live on their planet of origin?
Was Praxis orbiting their homeworld (Spock's idiotic line ablut "depleting their ozone" not withstanding) or just their key energy producing planet?
Plus, the Hurq may have scattered klingons over several systems when they conquored them.

The "Prime" thing is pretty lazy on the writer's part- as though a race as imaginative as fleshed-out as the Bajorans would really refer to a world in their system as "Bajor 8" (ow whatever the number value of the week is).

Silly to use "prime" or number designations for anything except unimnhabited/disputed worlds.

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Was the name given for Bajor's sun (at least, its Bajoran name) ever used outside of the DS9 technical manual? I'm thinking no, but I missed a surprising number of DS9 episodes.
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It was not.
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PsyLiam
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What was it?

And in the interest of balance, I don't recall them ever saying "Sol" more than once or twice.

(To be honest, I can't remember them saying it at all, but I'm covering my nerd-bases. Also, maybe the Bajorans do have a name for all their planets, but the UT thinks "Flinkblop? These stupid people in front of me aren't going to know what that is, so I'll change the name to 'Bajor IV' so that they don't look stupid." Presumably the only reason why we hear "Mars" and others is because the UT knows that the people watching at home have a basic grasp of the planets making up the solar system.)

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